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I'm confused how a wider tire with the same aspect ratio as a narrower tire requires no modification [?]


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245/70R16, modifications needed, using 2.5" lift, fits in spare tire mount (29.5")
255/70R16, no modifications needed, MAY fit spare tire mount; some say yes, others say no (30.1")
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Need to add 245/70/16. On another post the owner said no modifications and it fits in the spare tire well.

I have four used with 8,000 miles waiting to be installed as soon as I get to 30,000 miles. Will buy one new one because I rotate all 5 every 7500 miles. Hard for me to remove the OEM Hankooks before I wear them out. I would probably get 50,000 miles out of them.

I think @orton was trying to say something similar as well
 
IINM, Bill is compiling info others have provided. I agree, there are some “inconsistencies” due to the varied sources, and different brands. And manufacturing variances by Ford in the pinch weld behind the front wheel may mean some vans have more clearance than others.

1) I believe (though cannot confirm) that 225/75x16 WILL fit in spare . If it won’t, then NO larger size will. ***edit: they do fit on the ground OK, and add about 3/4” increase in ride height.. unfortunately, most (or all) are also more narrow than stock.***
2) I can confirm that original Cooper Discoverer AT3 245/70x16 will fit (on the ground)...BARELY. It is close though. So close, that Discount Tire would not extend their road hazard nor tread life warranty if I had gone through with purchase after a test fit. Of course, maybe my pinchweld is worse than some. Regardless, it wouldn’t take much bending to make adequate clearance. This is the size I will consider next time, especially if some other brands will offer Load E in this size. I did not test fit the spare.
3a) anything larger SHOULD NOT fit (eg, 255/70x16) without modification, unless that tire brand runs smaller than the Coopers, or your pinchwelds are less intrusive in front, or possibly if you have a lift. **edit: At least one 255/70 is smaller in diameter than the typical 245/75, but width also hurts clearance in the turns. That said, BFG KO2 255/70 MIGHT fit, but again, it must be awfully close. I would really like to see a picture of these cranked slightly to show clearance with the pinch-weld.***
3b) this means theoretically the 245/75x16 wont fit, as it “should” be as wide as the 245/70, but 1” taller(0.5” more ride height). It’s “possible” if your particular brand runs small , that 245/75x16 fits in the 4 on-the-ground locations. Some 245/75’s are actually more narrow than the Cooper 245/70’s, despite us thinking “245” means actual 245mm width. The tread shoulder design of the individual tire matters as well.

The best test is to “testfit” the front tires, crank the steering wheel side to side and observe how close the shoulder of the tread is to the back pinchweld of the front wheel well (which is recessed from the the outer bodywork by about 2” or so, and to the plastic bumper trim on the leading edge of the front wheel well. On mine, the point where the shoulder is closest is not with the steering wheel cranked all the way left or right, but only 1/2 a turn or so. That is when the shoulder is closest to the pinchweld. Of course, this is a static test, and suspension compliance and tires possibly swelling with high-speed rotation might affect results. Back wheels are never the issue (within reason).

Bill, my suggestion for your list is that for any size above 225/75x16, the results should include the brand & model of tire, to account for variability between brands of the same size.

And apologies to those who’ve been on these forum awhile, this is probably the 4th time I’ve been on this rant.

Lawyer speak/disclaimer: You alone are responsible for the results of grinding or bending the pinchweld on your van. None of these scenarios shall be considered a recommendation by the author. Common or possible side effects of pinchweld modification include body fatigue, loss of rigidity or strength, failure to properly absorb impact damage in an accident, loss of front fender in extreme situations, unpredictable airbag deployment, or death. (I’m trying to be funny and serious at the same time).


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I'm confused how a wider tire with the same aspect ratio as a narrower tire requires no modification [?]
Because it fits too, as in the available space is not maxed out with the 245/70. Neither size leaves as much wheel well space as the stock tires.
 
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Discussion starter · #86 ·
I'm confused how a wider tire with the same aspect ratio as a narrower tire requires no modification [?]
I'm only condensing the info provided by the people with the tires.
There's a conflict in one of the sizes regarding if it fits in the spare tire holder; one says yes, another says no (they might have a 130wb, which has less room to the differential).
 
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Discussion starter · #88 ·
JONG, the 225/75R16 is already on the list, but thanks.
 
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Discussion starter · #89 · (Edited)
Please read post #1 before replying :)

Larger tire DISCUSSION thread: https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com...om/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension/2577-alternate-larger-tires-2015-transit.html :D



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Stock size:
235/65/16, no modifications needed, fits in spare tire mount (28")

225/75R16, no modifications needed, fits in spare tire mount (29.3")

245/70R16, modifications needed, using 2.5" lift, fits in spare tire mount (29.5")

255/70R16, no modifications needed, MAY fit spare tire mount; some say yes, others say no (30.1")

215/85R16 (no info) (30.4)

245/75r16, no modifications needed, no info on spare tire mount (some report modifications needed) (30.5")

265/70r16, modifications needed, using 3" lift, no info on spare tire mount (30.6")

235/85R16, modifications needed, does not fit spare tire mount (31.7")

(modifications = cutting or removing part of body or trim)
(note: load rating depends on brand and model of tire, sizes will be the same regardless of brand in most cases, so I did not include the load rating or brand in the summary)
(note: info shared on this list is supplied by forum members, not my own experience or measurements. there is some conflicting info)
 
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Discussion starter · #91 ·
Do I need to get reading glasses because according to the English I know, "no info on spare tire mount" means there was no info on that?
Ah! thank you!~ I glossed over that! I'll add it to the list. I started putting in the diameter sizes and noticed that a larger tire DID fit, but no one had confirmed on that specific size until you.
Much apologies :)
 
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2018 quigley 350 with 265/65/18 (31.6”) BFG at ko2 on XD grenades with 38mm offset. Minor trim to front wheel well pinch weld & bumper
 

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Please read post #1 before replying

Larger tire DISCUSSION thread: https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...5-transit.html



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Stock size:
235/65/16, no modifications needed, fits in spare tire mount (28")

225/75R16, no modifications needed, fits in spare tire mount (29.3")

245/70R16, modifications needed, using 2.5" lift, fits in spare tire mount (29.5")

255/70R16, no modifications needed, MAY fit spare tire mount; some say yes, others say no (30.1")

215/85R16 (no info) (30.4)

245/75r16, no modifications needed, no info on spare tire mount (some report modifications needed) (30.5")

265/70r16, modifications needed, using 3" lift, no info on spare tire mount (30.6")

235/85R16, modifications needed, does not fit spare tire mount (31.7")

Tires that do not fit stock rim:
265/65/18, modifications needed, using Quigley 4x4 lift, does not fit spare tire mount (31.6")

(modifications = cutting or removing part of body or trim)
(note: load rating depends on brand and model of tire, sizes will be the same regardless of brand in most cases, so I did not include the load rating or brand in the summary)
(note: info shared on this list is supplied by forum members, not my own experience or measurements. there is some conflicting info)
 
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Discussion starter · #96 · (Edited)
Wait a second, should we even include tires on oversize rims? I kind of think this thread should just be for tires that will fit on the OEM rims. There are 4-5 "oversize tire" threads where these 17, 18, 18, 24" etc rim tires can be posted and people can share their vanity pics.
 
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I had my local tire shop install a 255/70 R16 onto my stock rim today to try in the front. Its BF TA.

The fit seemed pretty good. It got close to the frame on full lock.

One thing they noted was it was really close to the shock. Has anyone had issues with this size and the shocks?

I have a set on order.

The size looked really good on my van. Lots of room around the pinch weld.
 
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