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Wall Templates - 148" HR

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#1 ·
Looking for places that sell wall templates to fit all the curves and contours of the van that I can use to template for any material I choose to use for the wall.
 
#2 ·
I just received this one from Titan Vans. It seems like it will be an excellent way to save hours of measuring and testing but much cheaper than ordering the wall kits themselves.
Paper Template Kit for DIY Transit Van Panels

Also, they sell a structural steel that really helps create a nice transition. I also bought and installed these...
 
#3 ·
I just received this one from Titan Vans. It seems like it will be an excellent way to save hours of measuring and testing but much cheaper than ordering the wall kits themselves.
Paper Template Kit for DIY Transit Van Panels

Also, they sell a structural steel that really helps create a nice transition. I also bought and installed these...
Pretty pricey for some paper templates, but I'm sure they did put a lot of R&D into making those and would save a builder a lot of time not templating themselves.
 
#9 ·
I bought the Titan templates. I’m going to start cutting today. In a few weeks I’ll list them for sale on this site. Figure I can recoup a bunch of my cost and someone else will get a good value. They won’t get damaged by tracing.
They are high quality, you are buying more than just cardboard. They are stamped out more accurate than I can make. Also, I don’t have the cost/effort of dumpster diving for cardboard.

I did template my own floor with scrape cardboard.
 
#13 ·
I just measured roughly the panel size and made a template out of cardboard. Had already installed the Plus-nuts in the wall. Taped the cardboard to the wall. Used a wood block and a hammer at each Plus-nut to indent the cardboard and made notes with a marker pen where I needed to add or remove cardboard around the perimeter. Removed cardboard and drilled the bolt holes in the cardboard and trimmed the perimeter as needed. Reinstalled the cardboard using bolts in the Plus-nuts. More notes on the perimeter and used marker pen to mark the exact centerlines of the bolt holes. A couple of panels needed to be done twice. First cardboard was too far off but was used for the pattern for the second try.
 
#16 ·
The Titan templates have been okay. They are well designed and manufactured, good quality corrugated cardboard. They saved me a bunch of time and effort having to chase cardboard for templates.
When I was young I had more time than money. Now that formula is inverse. The Titan templates are expensive for what you get. However, I plan to sell mine soon. Recouping some cost will make them a good value.
My templates are 100% intact. However, I did modify several panels after I cut them, based on my needs.
For example at the back for an east/west bed, I inset the panels so that I can have a 73 inch bed. I am 5’11”. Wanted to be able to stretch out. Also, for the ceiling, I am using 80/20 upper cabinets on both sides. So it makes sense to just use a single long, center ceiling panel at the rear of the van supported by the upper cabinet 80/20 on the sides. The inside of the cabinets will have independent detachable ceiling pieces.

So yeah, Titan templates are worth it to me especially after I sell mine.
I gotta get off this site and go finish this van. Have a family trip planned in a couple of weeks.
 
#36 ·
I'm planning on getting the templates and will plan on selling them when I'm done. Probably won't be for at least a month though.

I did see some mentions of the structural pieces in this thread as well and was considering adding those to my order. However, I noticed AVC Rig also sells what appears to be a more basic version for $105 less. Has anyone used those? Is it worth paying the extra money for the Titan ones?
 
#37 ·
I skipped buying the used Titan templates for my EXT Length HR because I purchased the Titan structural pieces you referenced and getting the new templates with the structural things got me free shipping. I'm aways off from doing wall panels but I will sell them when finished with them. I'm probably installing the structural pieces today, I'll let you know how it goes. I saw the simpler & cheaper AVC Rig pieces as well and I bet they would work just fine, they have such good info and videos, the simple pieces seem to do what's needed. You could also have an HVAC shop fab those for you pretty cheaply but involves a little more labor. I didn't see what gauge the metal was so I didn't do that. The Titan structural pieces are quite heavy in addition to the cuts and bends adding strength, like so much of this van stuff objects in hand are larger than they appear on the internet. 🤣

I may have sprung for some of the AVC Rig unistrut to combine shipping but they didnt have that offering when I was buying. Happy hunting.
 
#38 ·
Yeah, the free shipping is factoring into this decision, but I think I'm going to get the headliner shelf kit anyway, so that would put me over the threshold. Some of this stuff seems pretty expensive for what it is, but at this point I'm willing to pay some extra money to get this built out faster. I wish somebody would have warned me that building a van takes a lot more time than you think :giggle:
 
#51 ·
@cvollers I've been looking at this fabric/acoustic felt material as the back side of cabinets where I don't need "real" wall material:


Someone here had linked to it a while ago. It's "CLASS A ASTM-E84" fire rated -- not specifically for mobile use, but should be safe inside van cabinets.

BTW, what is the double "U" extrusion that you're showing for the base of your wall panels? Looks very useful for my build... This part on your model:
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#52 · (Edited)
@cvollers I've been looking at this fabric/acoustic felt material as the back side of cabinets where I don't need "real" wall material:


Someone here had linked to it a while ago. It's "CLASS A ASTM-E84" fire rated -- not specifically for mobile use, but should be safe inside van cabinets.

BTW, what is the double "U" extrusion that you're showing for the base of your wall panels? Looks very useful for my build... This part on your model:
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Interesting panel idea...I like it. The thing you identified is actually a gang of three separate U channel anodized extrusions that are tack welded (or glued) on the backside to a thin strip of aluminum and bolted to the van wall through the center channel. I was looking for an alternative to L-track as I don't need it for attaching stuff to the wall and don't particularly like the way it looks unless its on the floor doing tie-down duty.
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The bolt needs to be M5 to fit in the channel which will work with a M8 rivnut with M5 threaded inserts put into the rivnuts first.

BTW, I'm a big fan of Richelieu and have been using their panels and drawer boxes for years. I'm using their aluminum tambour door in my build.
 
#53 ·
That looks great - solid inspiration for panel fastening. The only downside I can think of would be possible wood shrinkage in the future that could possibly cause the panels to rattle inside the U channel. In the interest of being able to disassemble my walls for troubleshooting/re-routing things in the future, I don't think I'd want to glue the wood into the U channel.

Do you have a Richlieu vendor that you've worked with? Or does your company have the ability to order from them? I'd be interested if you end up pursuing the Duotex panel option.
 
#54 · (Edited)
My company has a Richelieu account and we buy direct. Between the .25” Baltic birch (which won’t shrink) and the .125” landau foam (plus the fabric wrap on the plywood) it will be a nice tight fit in the channels. No need to glue or fasten at that location. I'm not routing anything other than a few wires behind the wall panels (lighting, pop-top USB outlets, and ceiling mounted speakers), but I still like the idea of easily removing the wall panels if needed.
 
#59 ·
I know this is an old thread but can you tell me if the templates and steel structure will work if you frame the van?
Many thanks, Bill
If you're asking what I think you're asking, the templates from Titan van and the structural supports from Titan Vans are intended to be used against the sheet metal of the van with a 1/2" thick floor.

If you "frame" the van (like furring strips?), then you're moving all of those panels in by however thick your framing is.

The templates will get you in the ballpark if you frame the van but you'll need to do some over-sizing and then trimming if you want a very clean look. If you just want to throw up wall panels on top of framing/furring strips you'll be fine.
 
#60 ·
If you're asking what I think you're asking, the templates from Titan van and the structural supports from Titan Vans are intended to be used against the sheet metal of the van with a 1/2" thick floor.

If you "frame" the van (like furring strips?), then you're moving all of those panels in by however thick your framing is.

The templates will get you in the ballpark if you frame the van but you'll need to do some over-sizing and then trimming if you want a very clean look. If you just want to throw up wall panels on top of framing/furring strips you'll be fine.
Thank-you for the reply.
 
#61 ·
I'm going to be getting some templates here in a couple weeks. Wondering if anyone has bought the AVC paper ones. They are less rigid, but come with all the factory bolt holes marked which I think is huge. Anyone else use the AVC ones. The price is kind of ridiculous but I'll be Gentle with them and resell. The AVC video shows them using contact adhesive to lay them on the plywood. I definitely won't do that and i think they show that so you ruin them and can't reuse them. lol I think I am going to get the AVC ones though unless someone has better advice.