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I don't even know the terminology to use for this question

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#1 ·
I have a 2020 AWD Transit, med. length, high roof. I'm 5'9" and have a bed aligned across the back of the van with room for storage underneath. It turns out that with the insulation and wall covering, I can't quite fit my full body length on the bed without my feet touching the sidewall. I've seen different cargo vans that have a little extension inset in the sidewall that sticks out about 6" and gives a little more width across the inside back of the van. What would be the terminology to use to search for that kind of after market product to install?

TIA.
 
#3 ·
A member in CA has some listed for sale

 
#4 ·

VanSpeed also makes a version of Flarespace's flares.

A fiberglass high top company in Southern CA named Fiberine makes a version as well.


Those are your three options on the market currently that I'm aware of - Flarespace, Fiberine, and VanSpeed. All three are outrageously expensive to do properly (paint matched, interior trim ring, install, etc.) and gain roughly 10" of east to west sleeping space.

I've installed two sets of Flarespace flares on Sprinters (not my van - I'm not made out of money). It allows you to fit their very expensive, custom cut mattress east to west in the rear of the van. The dimensions are closest to a queen sized bed so the question is - "is saving 20 inches of north to south space in the van worth $4,000?" for some people the answer is yes. Flarespace flares are held to the body of the van with adhesive. 100% adhesive and nothing else. I can't speak to the attachment method of the other two companies that I listed.

Keep in mind that the top-to-bottom dimension of the "flare" gets half way filled up with the mattress and then a pillow on top of that so consider how much room is left for your head while you sleep.

Flarespace is a great company and was great to work with on those two installs that I completed, I just like to make sure that folks that are interested have a good idea of what the final product will feel like before they spend anywhere from $2,000 to $4,000.

Hope that helps!
 
#5 ·
I am 5'-10" and sleep across the back of the van without issues. Have 73 1/2" length between the walls.

The trick is not to fill the window indents with insulation. I have 1" on stiffeners and 1 1/2" rigid polyiso foam on the indents covered with indoor/outdoor carpet.

Walls | Orton Travel Transit (ortontransit.info)
 
#12 ·
Can also go N-S that is front to back with a bed frame that extends by sliding out. Pretty simple to build. Lots of examples if you search around the forum. Also lots of YT videos showing that style. One big advantage of N-S is not having to climb over or be climbed over to get out. It’s a middle of the night old person thing.
 
#17 · (Edited)
Just want to add that as someone who has purchased the flarespace kit - their custom mattress for the transit is borderline dishonest. They seemingly go as far out of their way as possible not to show you what the custom mattress for the ford looks like. 38" into the 60" you lose 5 inches at your head and 5" at your toes to accommodate the angle of the trim ring. If you're trying to fit two people on this thing, good luck... Don't think of the bed as actually 60x80.

Additionally, I am over two weeks into trying them get them to send me the correct structural steel sheet metal as I discovered the one they sent was about 3 inches short. Not a lot of confidence in what I assumed was a reputable company in this space.
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#18 ·
... add to all this that a legit queen-size mattress fits inside the rear door opening by quite a bit - depending on where you measure the edge of a flare bed, could be 15" or so. The ultimate space saved with flares is a few inches - not even close to the 20" claimed. Add the option of choosing a legit queen-sized mattress of your choice versus the oddball mattress options and the need to eliminate insulation to maximize head/foot room in the flares, and... 🤷‍♀️
 
#19 ·
This may seem like an overly simple answer, but If you plan to sleep in this van by yourself, there’s no reason you can’t sleep diagonally on the bed and have enough space to where your head and feet aren’t touching anything— even without flares. Save time money and space!
 
#21 ·
Tried that in the Sprinter build and found that to be uncomfortable. Also affects how you compensate for an unlevel parking location. I filled the window indents on the Sprinter build with insulation and that reduced the bed length. Different approach on the Transit build was to limit the insulation to increase the bed length.