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What a difference a pandemic makes, I got mine for $1438 inclu shipping to CO from the same place in Feb; it shipped for free in one day. Now it is on "pre order" status, and close to half a kilobuck more... that's a 32% COVID tax...
 
What's a good place to buy the Espar B4L (gasoline). And what about the mounting bracket for the 2020 Ford transit?
Be careful with HEATSO. I bought one from them last year and had cpontinuing issues with the fuel pump. After dealing with Espar tech support, who sent me a new pump and ECU, they commented that HEATSO has been nothing but problems for them. While it's hard for me to understand, Espar stated that HEATSO may be getting parts that are defective out of the box and reselling them. It semes that Espar should have better QC on it's inventory but I wanted to pass the info on. Good luck
 
Anyone else have thoughts/experience ordering from Heatso?

They currently have the B4L in stock. Espar Parts in the US has 5-7 week lead time. Installing the heater later in the build doesn't seem too bad though.

Also, FYI: Talked to Espar Parts guy. Apparently the fuel pickup line (not sure I totally understood which part he's talking about) is the wrong ID with the transit (6mm).

You need a 2mm ID fuel standpipe, this is the correct part for transits: Espar / Eberspacher Fuel Standpipe 300mm

Esparparts.com is including that part now in their transit kits (I don't think ti was originally included).
 
Anyone else have thoughts/experience ordering from Heatso?

They currently have the B4L in stock. Espar Parts in the US has 5-7 week lead time. Installing the heater later in the build doesn't seem too bad though.

Also, FYI: Talked to Espar Parts guy. Apparently the fuel pickup line (not sure I totally understood which part he's talking about) is the wrong ID with the transit (6mm).

You need a 2mm ID fuel standpipe, this is the correct part for transits: Espar / Eberspacher Fuel Standpipe 300mm

Esparparts.com is including that part now in their transit kits (I don't think ti was originally included).
My thought was to take the plunge. I just now ordered it from Esparparts.com. I prefer to deal with US distributors and I like that they offer a Transit kit. I've had some strange stuff delivered from non-US distributors like fake 3M VHB tape and fake Loctite. I've never dealt with Heatso, they could be fine.

The delay doesn't bother me. I'm knee-deep in my van project now, so I have plenty to keep me busy while I wait. I'm installing the heater in front of my passenger side wheel well. Since I didn't figure that out BEFORE I put in my floor I'll be doing some careful cutting of anchored plywood.:oops:
 
Yeah, I think I’m ordering from the esparparts.com too. I’ll have the mounting plate shipped out now, and can use that to line up and cut the holes I need to in the van before putting in the floor. I’ll just seal the hole until the espar kit arrives in a couple months
 
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I don't want to hijack your thread, but figured that having this info in one thread might help others. I just finished installing an Espar B4L heater in my Transit (2019, HR, 148 WB). I bought the heater from HEATSO (a company in the UK). Shipment was timely and they were very helpful answering some installation questions I had.

The B4L kit came with the exhaust muffler and later I decided to add an intake muffler (purchased from esparparts.com). I bought the auxiliary fuel port adapter (part # CK4Z-9B210-A) from Tasca Parts (HEATSO said I could use a Dorman 188-800 connector, but I decided to stay with a Ford part) and a uxcell 8mm to 4mm brass reducer to go from the Ford auxiliary fuel port to the heater’s fuel line:
uxcell 8mm to 4mm Hose ID Brass Reducer Barb Hose Fitting Straight Connector Coupler Tubing Adapter 2pcs: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

I thought about installing the heater under the passenger seat, but after looking under the van I decided to find a place that would make the install a lot easier. My van layout is similar to Far Out Ride’s, but modified because I don’t have the extended length. I had space on the floor next to my battery and fuse block that worked perfectly with open space under the van to easily run everything.

The installation instructions aren’t very helpful so I watched a bunch of YouTube videos to better understand the process. Then I laid all the parts out on the floor how they would be installed to make sure I had everything I needed and could visualize where things would go in and under the van.

I drove the van until the fuel light came on to reduce the weight of the fuel tank. To lower it I used the jack from my Xterra and a long 2x8 under the tank. This let me lower the tank about 8 inches, which was all I needed to access the auxiliary port.

The floor of my van has 1” poly covered by ½” plywood so I needed to use the “RV” style mounting bracket (purchased with the B4L). I cut a 5” diameter hole through the flooring, but not the bottom of the van. The holes I cut in the bottom of the van were just large enough for me to feed the intake, exhaust, and fuel lines though (I attached these lines to the bottom of the heater first). I used sealant between the mount and the floor.

For the stuff I had to secure under the van (fuel pump, intake and exhaust lines) I was mostly able to find existing holes where I could use crossnuts/rivetnuts. There were a few places I had to drill and use screws. I was able to secure most of the fuel line, as well as the 12v wire to the fuel pump, with zip ties that came with the install kit.
Because my heater is located right next to my fuse block, I just ran the wires straight to it and did not use the separate fuse holder that came with the B4L. I also built a box to cover the heater and made it big enough to stash the excess length of wires inside.

I purchased the Easystart Pro controller to run the B4L. The set-up instructions are confusing and at first I couldn’t get the temperature to display on the controller screen. I emailed HEATSO and they sent the following directions which worked perfectly:
To open the workshop menu, select the Settings menu (gear Symbol) and then hold the BACK button (arrow back) pressed for longer than 2 seconds while the clock symbol under the gear wheel is flashing.
Scroll to option - CONTROL SENSOR. Select Control unit
Scroll to option - INDICATOR SENSOR. Select Control Unit
Confirm by pressing the operating button.

It took about 3-4 cycles of turning the heater on and off to get fuel to it and then it ran fine. I’ve only had the heater running in my driveway, but it puts out a lot of heat and I don’t find it to be that noisy. The noise outside is low enough that I would be comfortable running the heater at a trailhead/campground and not be worried about disturbing other campers (this is with mufflers on both the intake and exhaust).

The install is not that difficult, though I’m glad it wasn’t one of my first van projects. It helps to be comfortable with cutting holes in your van, as well as how to connect up the wiring.

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I'm currently doing my install on the B4L M2 and I have a question on the power wiring from the harness. Do I need to connect the small red wire(5 AMP) and also the large red wire(20 AMP) to power, wondering what each wire will power. i thought instructions were very vague. Thanks.
 
So, I've been stuck waiting for this stupid ford fuel tank adapter that I only found out I needed after purchase. It seems to be on backorder in the US :(

I plan to install mine in the bench unit/cabinet I am making - on the driver side of the van mounted into the floor with the turret plate from heatso.

I had half a mind to use the standpipe that came with the heater and just roll with it, we'll see what tasca says about part availability today.
Sorry if my question is a bit dated, what is the fuel adaptor needed? Can you share a part number and/or description. Much appreciated!
 
I'm currently doing my install on the B4L M2 and I have a question on the power wiring from the harness. Do I need to connect the small red wire(5 AMP) and also the large red wire(20 AMP) to power, wondering what each wire will power. i thought instructions were very vague. Thanks.
On my heater the thicker red wire powers the heater and the thinner red wire powers the Easy Start Controller.
 
Anyone else have thoughts/experience ordering from Heatso?

They currently have the B4L in stock. Espar Parts in the US has 5-7 week lead time. Installing the heater later in the build doesn't seem too bad though.

Also, FYI: Talked to Espar Parts guy. Apparently the fuel pickup line (not sure I totally understood which part he's talking about) is the wrong ID with the transit (6mm).

You need a 2mm ID fuel standpipe, this is the correct part for transits: Espar / Eberspacher Fuel Standpipe 300mm

Esparparts.com is including that part now in their transit kits (I don't think ti was originally included).

Has anyone installed the new fuel standpipe/pick-up tube referred to above? Esparparts.com not only includes it in their kits, but also states that installing the heater without it will be problematic down the line. Apparently the old way of reducing the diameter of the existing Ford auxiliary fuel pick-up tube is not good for heater operation.
 
I just got off the phone with esparparts. I inquired about the difference between the "Commercial" vs "Ford Transit" kit. The Transit kit comes with the muffler kit and the standpipe/pick-up tube. They recommended installing the new standpipe by dropping the tank and installing it in the sending unit. When the heater has issues because stock standpipe diameter is too large, they consider this an installation issue and not an issue with the heater themselves. This is why they are now including it with the kit.
 
@ktc - I am installing mine right now and besides making the whole the exact size of the turret, I am now realizing that it creates a gap between the bottom of Espar and the metal van floor. Espar says all connections should be outside of the vehicle, I assume due to heat + fumes, etc.

Did you seal the turret adapter in any way to the surrounding hole in your floor? What about the exposed insulation that the gap in the turret causes?

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@IanCH Did you ever get yours installed? How did you handle this?

Now I am questioning the 5" hole I just cut in my floor for this install 🥺

Thanks!
Hey, @Steamboater I’m facing the same problem. What solution did you end up going with?
 
I just got off the phone with esparparts. I inquired about the difference between the "Commercial" vs "Ford Transit" kit. The Transit kit comes with the muffler kit and the standpipe/pick-up tube. They recommended installing the new standpipe by dropping the tank and installing it in the sending unit. When the heater has issues because stock standpipe diameter is too large, they consider this an installation issue and not an issue with the heater themselves. This is why they are now including it with the kit.
Great thread. I had ordered the B4L M2 from HEATSO back in Dec. 2020 and the install was done by the builder I used. Just picked up the van 2 weeks ago. Interesting to read about the stock standpipe vs the one in the kit. I'm not sure what the installer used but my guess would be just the stock as I didn't know there might be an issue and did not ask about it. Probably go back on that. Any idea what kind of issue(s) result?

My real question is does anyone know at approx. what level in the fuel tank does the heater start sucking air? Any info (painfully acquired?) is appreciated. I have the extended range fuel tank but I think it is only longer than the regular one so I'd expect the relative level 1/2. 1/4 etc. would be about the same depth of fuel in the tank.

Thx
 
Hey, @Steamboater I’m facing the same problem. What solution did you end up going with?
I just (FINALLY) installed my B4 through a ~1.5" thick floor using the same 5" turret mount pictured in the original post. I'm a little confused because it looks like the original poster just drilled down to the metal floor and NOT through it. I drill a clean 5" hole ALL THE WAY through the van. Turret seats perfectly and extends about a 1/4" through the bottom. Sealed off the edge (underneath) with some Sikaflex but probably didn't even need to. Slip the B4L on top and screw it into your 1/2" plywood and your all set. Underneath you can easily connect all your hoses (though it gets a bit tight). If your floor consists of more than (minicell between ribs + 1" XPS +1/2" plywood+ sheet flooring) I could see having a serious problem.
 
I just (FINALLY) installed my B4 through a ~1.5" thick floor using the same 5" turret mount pictured in the original post. I'm a little confused because it looks like the original poster just drilled down to the metal floor and NOT through it. I drill a clean 5" hole ALL THE WAY through the van. Turret seats perfectly and extends about a 1/4" through the bottom. Sealed off the edge (underneath) with some Sikaflex but probably didn't even need to. Slip the B4L on top and screw it into your 1/2" plywood and your all set. Underneath you can easily connect all your hoses (though it gets a bit tight). If your floor consists of more than (minicell between ribs + 1" XPS +1/2" plywood+ sheet flooring) I could see having a serious problem.
link to the mount?
 
60mm deep mount

looks like there are both 30mm and 60mm deep versions now. I’d think 60mm should get through most floors. If you used 3/4” ply on top of 1” XPS you could be cutting it real close though.
 
I just (FINALLY) installed my B4 through a ~1.5" thick floor using the same 5" turret mount pictured in the original post. I'm a little confused because it looks like the original poster just drilled down to the metal floor and NOT through it. I drill a clean 5" hole ALL THE WAY through the van. Turret seats perfectly and extends about a 1/4" through the bottom. Sealed off the edge (underneath) with some Sikaflex but probably didn't even need to. Slip the B4L on top and screw it into your 1/2" plywood and your all set. Underneath you can easily connect all your hoses (though it gets a bit tight). If your floor consists of more than (minicell between ribs + 1" XPS +1/2" plywood+ sheet flooring) I could see having a serious problem.
Huh interesting, they do make two different length mounts, a 30mm and a 60mm, perhaps you bought the 60mm?
 
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