[Ronaldf123]

I don’t have my van yet, haven’t even heard from my dealer as to when it might get built. I have been reading all these complaints about dealer service, not only in this thread but many others. Can anyone besides the dealer make these repairs under warranty? Is this the only choice we have?

 

[Budsky]

AFAIK Ford isn't going to cover warranty at anywhere other than a dealer.
You, of course, can buy the part and pay someone else to do it.
OR-
When all this giubo mess started, some of us bought the part and changed them ourselves.
In my case I found a new takeoff giubo from Quigley for $25 and spent HOURS changing it- not for the faint of heart for those that do not have an inductive bolt heater.
Still that was preferable to me than getting tortured by a dealer.

 

[86scotty]

2015 150 373 gears 85000 Miles. I had no problems until had first recall done (disc) at 58,000 two weeks later got the drone noise 68-70 mph took it back 2 times said they had to wait on permanent fix. Between 58,000 and now 85,000 noise 64-65 and 68-70 mph. had permanent fix at 85,000 now noise all different speeds plus have a shutter low speed if it is in a higher gear. Now waiting on next appointment. After the permanent fix I took a video camera at different locations of the drive shaft while driving and can't see any shaking looks normal. This is driving me insane.

The shudder is a bit different than the driveshaft drone problem. If you are getting occasional shudder then your torque converter is going out. Mine did and since I had it rebuilt (neither Ford nor anyone else in the US had one) the shudder is gone. Soon after that was fixed I also got the final flex disc fix and NOW I have highway drone, never before the fix.
@Tristate Turbocharger, you aren't the only one who has gotten the drone after the fix. Also, if you weren't aware, the driveshaft is one long piece, about 10' long in my case, with no serviceable carrier bearings (mine has 2). The entire shaft is $900. Also, it is plainly printed on the shaft DISCARD IF DROPPED or something to that effect. Obviously they dropped yours while fixing your flex disc and didn't want to replace it.

 

[danketchpel]

My van is a 148" MR 3.2L 3.73LS bought as a bare cargo van. Current mileage just over 36k.

I have never really had much hum from the driveline. Original was very smooth. It did increase just a bit after the 2nd guibo (original design) was installed but it wasn't bad.

When they did the "permanent fix" with the new design guibo (was hoping for the U-joint) it got smother and while there is a barely detectable hum around 68-70 mph it's very minor and I have to really pay attention to detect it.

I would agree that what is installed inside makes a difference in deadening various sounds. I notice a difference with the seats in or out. I have a slight rear end whine from new, not bad, just barely noticeable. When the rear seats are in I can't hear it.

So far it seems like I got lucky as I've had no real problems so far. The biggest problem I've had was a rear main seal leak on the engine. They replaced the seal and it's been all good since. I hope it continues as I love this van. It's my first van and I must say it's been a fabulously useful vehicle. I've ended up putting about 2x the miles on it than I'd projected.

Honestly, I've had driveline vibe problems on other vehicles and your best bet is working with a high quality driveline shop that can do dynamic balancing. I've also jacked up vehicles and run them to watch the driveline myself and check where vibes emanate from.

 

[greenvan]

Well this is an interesting thread.
Just picked up my 2018 148" MR EBoost, 3.73LSD. I have the factory walls and floor cover. I drove it from Matt Ford to Rhode island, so a quick 1500 miles on the van. I noticed the drone right away, and had never read about it until now. i think its pretty obviously exhaust related. Engine is spinning at 2550rpm at 80 droning like mad. shift to 5th, rpm goes up 500 and the drone goes away instantly. 6 cylinders have that raspy "sweat spot" somewhere in their rpm range, I'm guessing on the Eco Boost 3.5, that starts around 2500rpm. which is pretty low, but its not a revver so not surprising. I think anyone that has modified their exhaust should relate their experiences. I will have it modified as soon as i get back to Florida with it. Im going to do dual slash tips, Raptor style, and delete some amount of muffler(s).

Now it could be a torque converter, but since i noticed the drone with 50 miles on the van it seems unlikely. However if they are claiming straight Defect on the converter from mile zero, i can see it being an issue.

Another issue is i would assume that a lot of the owners giving feedback on this are not mechanics or have limited background in diagnosing problems like this. I'm no genius but i have been working on cars for 40 years, not as a pro, but i have helped sort out lots of "weird" issues.

I hope its something simple!!

 

[jackhammer50]

I have a 2018 148" WB, mid-roof, eco-boost, limited slip Transit 250. Had it since May 25th.

It now has 2060 miles on it.

I have had both the rumble and the drone since the first drive home. I did not have it in the test drive Transit I took for a ride before ordering the one I now own.

At first I chalked it up as resonance but now after reading this thread I think it is something else.

I get the rumble when accelerating through 25 mph and if I let off on the throttle it sometimes goes away until I load the drivetrain again. I get the drone/whine at 58mph up to 70, then it stops. I get the bang every morning when I put the van in drive to pull out of my driveway.

Adding a 3/4" plywood floor with 1/2" polyiso in the spaces between the ribs helped a lot, but it's still there.

 

[greenvan]

Crawled under the van since my last post. WOW, that is a goofy driveshaft!! 4 regular U-joints, 2 support bearings. Yeah...... thats gonna be a problem isn't it, radical misalignment breeds crazy solutions.....

 

[EL34xyz]

Do you have a driveshaft carrier bearing?
https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com...m/ford-transit-general-discussion/71044-driveshaft-carrier-bearing-failure.html

 

[tokeefe3]

I purchased a 2016 250 EB High roof in April 2018 with about 24,000 miles on the odometer. There were no obvious inappropriate sounds. Drove round-trip from SF Bay Area to Olympic National Forest last week. Half way through the trip at around 29,000 miles the car started making a sound at certain RPMs. Generally, it would start at around 1800 RPMs then go away between 2400-2800 RPMs then start up again above 2800 RPM. Didn't matter what gear it was in. Tried to get into several Ford shops in the Pacific Northwest but could not get an appointment for more than a week. Finally, got a technician in Port Angeles, WA to go for a ride with me a the end of the day and listen to the sound. We agreed that it was coming from the rear of the van and thought it could be a loose shroud or something with the muffler or catalytic converter or something else. They also could not service the van for a week but he thought it was safe to drive and didn't think it would cause damage to drive the van back to California.

The next morning at a campground, I crawled underneath the van and and adjusted and tweaked the shroud under the assumption that the shroud might be vibrating against some other metal part once the van hit a certain RPM. Once the entire exhaust pipe had been inspected and adjusted, took the van for a ride and the sound was unfortunately still there as we climbed up to Hurricane Ridge in Olympic NP.

The only way around the annoying sound was to manually shift gears to feather it into the right RPM range. When I returned to the Bay Area, made an appointment to replace the guibo (the van's now at 31k miles), adjust the sliding door (warning light mysteriously started coming on intermittently), and fix the annoying noise. They replaced the guibo but could not fix the other 2 issues. In fact, now they made the door light stay on all the time.

Not sure if the noise (vibration/hum) is the same as everyone else is experiencing but the Ford tech said he drove a comparable van, heard the noise and deduced that this is how all Transits sound and therefore there was nothing they could do. This sound never existed for me prior to 29k miles. Replacing the guibo did not eliminate the noise. Hope there is a solution out there that works. I'm going to have to bring the van back to the shop because it's driving me crazy because it's so loud.

 

[tokeefe3]

I should also note that I cannot replicate the sound while revving the engine in neutral. It is only evident when the vehicle is under a load. It's more pronounced when going up an incline.

 

[MTBRYDR]

Just took delivery Aug 31, 2018 Less than 200 miles howl or whine appears coming from rear end or drive shaft.

- Model Year 2018 T-150
- Wheelbase 130 LR
- Engine 3.5 EcoBoost V6
- Rear drive ratio 3.31
- Speed range where you hear the noise Starts at 43mph peaks at 40mph. Extremely loud. no vibration noted in steering wheel.

Going to dealer later this week. Will update.

 

[FishHog]

I've got the same drone noise in both my transit and my 2016 F150, so don't believe its unique to the Transit.

 

[lnheintz]

Over 10 years ago I had a Ford Explorer that eventually developed an annoying humm from the rear that occurred at higher road speeds. As I recall, they replaced the pinion gear in the rear differential and that solved the problem for a while. But the noise returned later and I sold it. I don’t recall the model year or the mileage when the humm occurred.

Regarding the droning noise from transits, is this generally believed to be occurring with all or most transits regardless of configuration? Is this a matter of WHEN it will start, as opposed to IF it will start? Thanks!

 

[brownbear]

I have a faint drone too. It is load/unload noticeable when you apply power and take it away. It's not RPM related. But it is speed related. I hear it around 50-60 mph.

It was there before my drive line fix and there after.

I have approximately 30K miles.

3.5 and 3.73 gears and LSD in a 2016 T250.

It's faint and annoying.

I think a lot of the noises we hear are also cargo van empty shell noises. This thing is too uninsulated to get rid of every bloody sound.

I like driving my van, I like the engine, but there is issues with the sounds of the brakes, this driveline thing makes me think these vans are not so great.

I may get some dyna matt and fill this thing till it's quiet.

 

[lolwisper4321]

I have some strange but good news related to my Drone issue I reported earlier in this thread.
After having four new Vanco tires mounted and balanced the drone noise I heard between 65-69 MPH is gone.
The spare was also lowered the day before and mounted since the left rear had a screw in the tread that could not be fixed.
I still have a Drone noise between 45-49 MPH but it only happens when I am coasting to a stop through that speed range.

Keep in mind that with my old tires I did not have any vibration through the 65-69 MPH range so I do not think it was front wheel
balancing. Maybe rear wheel balancing had issues? No vibrations were noted before I had all for tires change through the
65-69 MPH speed range. The drone as I reported before here only happened in 6th gear through the speed ranges.

 

[joel]

I've got the same whine or drone noisy coming from the rear end sounds like what everyone else has. I put it up on jack stands and noticed a clicking noise when you rotate the wheels, I'm guessing that has something to the anti-lock braking system? I have had the permeant drive shaft fix completed in July at 55k now have 63K it seems like its getting louder.

I was wonder what the highest mileage that someone has put on their Transit and other than noise had any problems with the drivetrain/rear end?

2016 Transit T-350 wagon
3.7 engine
62,688 miles
148 WB

 

[Eiko]

noticed a clicking noise when you rotate the wheels, I'm guessing that has something to the anti-lock braking system?

ABS doesn't make noise since there's nothing mechanical reading the tone ring on the hub, it's read electronically by a hall effect sensor.

 

[joel]

So what do you think that clicking noise might be?

 

[firehawk]

In my 2018 148" 3.5 I hear a drone about 40mph when the trans shifts to a higher overdrive gear and the engine drops revs. There seems to be a significant drone sound from the driveline as it lugs along. I haven't noticed it at 60 or 70mph.

 

[lolwisper4321]

In my 2018 148" 3.5 I hear a drone about 40mph when the trans shifts to a higher overdrive gear and the engine drops revs. There seems to be a significant drone sound from the driveline as it lugs along. I haven't noticed it at 60 or 70mph.

Yeah, describes my drone noise between 45-49 MPH. I can live with it as long as it's just a harmonic issue and not a bearing or other failing part.