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#21 ·
1x1_Speed_Craig said:
What length soft shackles (brand?), and do you, by chance, have a picture of where you loop it? I'm assuming right around the center area of the subframe. My only question with the soft shackle (or short strap) route is that my subframe has a lot of somewhat sharp weld spatter on the surface.
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You can wrap around the ends of subframe, near where the lower a arms attach. Weld splatter won't do anything to hurt these. Its Interesting, I come from sailboat racing world and we invented these years ago. I also find it amusing that the off road world has finally discovered double braid rope and use it instead of straps for recovery. Once again, sailing stuff. Winch "cable" (Spectra, Amsteel, etc.) as well but it could be argued that came from tug and barge industry.
 
#22 ·
I've yet to have a chance to use them (endless build), but I got a set of bog outs, and plan to buy some anchors or steel stakes to experiment with self recovery techniques. The designer has even used small shrub stumps successfully. It's like a ladder the front wheels climb into. I'll mostly be solo and this is safer than a winch, light weight, and low mod, but it's definitely a gamble that it'll would work for rock crawling. Making a suitable anchor might be unrealistic but a sledge hammer and stakes or large steel trampoline/shelter screw anchors look promising.

I'll probably experiment on a trip with my brother and his jeep so I can just use the set of 2"x30' recovery straps if necessary. I bought the VC front tow point but returned after my installer warned it looked like a massive undertaking. Hopefully the bog out works on rocky terrain even though most vids show sand, mud, or dry dirt with nearby tree trunks. If it does I'll be glad to have it instead.

VC lift, rear shock edit, fox pro resis, and 265x75x16 AT's should help a bit. We'll see.

Cheers.


 
#23 ·
How the heck does one get the Bog-Outs off in a tight situation once wound up on the tire(s) and still tension on the system?!
 
#24 ·
Van Gogh said:
I've yet to have a chance to use them (endless build), but I got a set of bog outs, and plan to buy some anchors or steel stakes to experiment with self recovery techniques. The designer has even used small shrub stumps successfully. It's like a ladder the front wheels climb into. I'll mostly be solo and this is safer than a winch, light weight, and low mod, but it's definitely a gamble that it'll would work for rock crawling. Making a suitable anchor might be unrealistic but a sledge hammer and stakes or large steel trampoline/shelter screw anchors look promising.

I'll probably experiment on a trip with my brother and his jeep so I can just use the set of 2"x30' recovery straps if necessary. I bought the VC front tow point but returned after my installer warned it looked like a massive undertaking. Hopefully the bog out works on rocky terrain even though most vids show sand, mud, or dry dirt with nearby tree trunks. If it does I'll be glad to have it instead.

VC lift, rear shock edit, fox pro resis, and 265x75x16 AT's should help a bit. We'll see.

Cheers.


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Just a brilliant idea from a bunch of criminals on island/continent! Looks so simple and effective
 
#25 ·
We put an Aluminess front bumper and a Warn VR Eco 12-S winch from Agile Off-Road on our 2019 Transit 350 Quigley 4X4 in May. Although we don’t intentionally “rock crawl,” we do push the limit of the van’s capability. Since it’s only my wife and I in the rig, we felt that additional recovery methods would be of benefit in case we ever get in a jam. I hope we never have to use them. I looked at the VC tow hook and other products before going the direction we did. Recently, I saw a new Aluminess product (on a Transit Limitless Van build) on YouTube. It’s a partial front bumper that would attach to the front ends of the subframe leaving most of the OEM bumper in place. It doesn’t appear on the Aluminess website. I guess it could be a “one of” or maybe a prototype. It might be a less expensive option with tow points and winch possibilities.
 
#26 ·
Scotty49 said:
We put an Aluminess front bumper and a Warn VR Eco 12-S winch from Agile Off-Road on our 2019 Transit 350 Quigley 4X4 in May. Although we don’t intentionally “rock crawl,” we do push the limit of the van’s capability. Since it’s only my wife and I in the rig, we felt that additional recovery methods would be of benefit in case we ever get in a jam. I hope we never have to use them. I looked at the VC tow hook and other products before going the direction we did. Recently, I saw a new Aluminess product (on a Transit Limitless Van build) on YouTube. It’s a partial front bumper that would attach to the front ends of the subframe leaving most of the OEM bumper in place. It doesn’t appear on the Aluminess website. I guess it could be a “one of” or maybe a prototype. It might be a less expensive option with tow points and winch possibilities.
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This looks like the Aluminess Baha Bumper : Aluminum Winch Bumpers, Roof Racks, Tire Carriers | Aluminess
 
#27 ·
How about 1/2 inch eyebolt going through bumper absorber? I know that will not save me in real bad situation, by when I am stuck on the wet grass it should work? What do you think?
 

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#30 ·
Polonus said:
I changed the cheap Eyebolts from Amazon, suitable maybe for garden swing, "Safe Working Load of 300 lbs" for the better ones, Stainless Steel, Type 316. Working Load Limit (WLL) : 2000 lbs, from e-rigging.com.

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Some food for thought, eyebolts like these are designed for use where the load is mostly in line with the bolt, not side loaded like this. The side load creates leverage point further from the base of the eye. A plate bolted to the frame that would load the bolt in sheer would be stronger.
 
#31 ·
CF Adventures said:
Some food for thought, eyebolts like these are designed for use where the load is mostly in line with the bolt, not side loaded like this. The side load creates leverage point further from the base of the eye. A plate bolted to the frame that would load the bolt in sheer would be stronger.
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That's true, but it worked anyway. I was stuck on the soft shoulder in Alaska and someone pulled me out using those eyebolts:

 
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