I got them, it was like $75 for a total of four all with PATS chip and FOB.
I wanted a key only w/o chip or fob to carry as a thin light spare since I plan on deliberately locking the key in the van for certain events and rely instead on the keyless entry system working properly. I'd carry or hide the simple one just in case the keypad fails or is vandalized.
Dealer has the laser key cutter but can only do completes....$245 each!
Locksmith with laser cutter can do it.....for $100 door opening key only. But for $30 he'll throw one in if a real one is made by him for $250!
He said his laser cutter cost $10,000, I think he got screwed. The dealer said they paid $8000 for theirs.
I'll just trust that my keypad never fails me. It does pry right off with a razor though, it's just stuck on with adhesive.
Yeah, that was an option that the dealer checked while I was sitting there without even asking me. He said "trust me, these are really a good deal". Looks like he was right.
Here's an idea. Could you put a second keyless entry pad on the van keyed to the same code? Then you'd have a backup way to get in and those keyless pads aren't very expensive.
Here's an idea. Could you put a second keyless entry pad on the van keyed to the same code? Then you'd have a backup way to get in and those keyless pads aren't very expensive.
I like that multiple key pad idea. But having a hidden real key outside the vehicle may be important still.....what if the battery goes dead for some reason! How you gonna open the hood to jump the thing?
I'll probably hide one inside in case I lose the key and the exterior hidden one is gone.
I like that multiple key pad idea. But having a hidden real key outside the vehicle may be important still....what if the battery goes dead for some reason! How you gonna open the hood to jump the thing?
I'll probably hide one inside in case I lose the key and the exterior hidden one is gone.
We own a fleet of vans, I've been driving my current van for 13 years. Never lost or needed to use the spare key. Not sure why I need another 2 extra for a total of 3 spares.
I still think the four keys and a pad were a good idea, and if the system can handle two more pads I'll be delighted, but I just came to the realization that I wasted some $ on PATS and perimeter alarm because if I plan on keeping a chipped key hidden inside both systems are defeated. Oh well.
Just wrap the inside hidden key in some shielded material (metal container) and the van should not be able to detect it for PATS. That is my thinking, at least. Ditto for outside hidden key.
I think I know the purpose of that hidden cubbyhole at the top front of the doors. My wife pointed out that it was a place to hide a wallet out of sight. Dah, I think she is correct. Wallet fits perfectly.
I just realized that having a key cut w/o FOB to hide if vehicle battery was dead would be useless. The lock is still not mechanical, you twist the key and it electrically unlocks the doors.
The owner's manual seems to imply that only coded keys can be used to open a door (not just a mechanical key) IMO, but is silent on what happens with a dead battery:
"If your keys are lost or stolen and you do not have a spare correctly coded key, you will need to have your vehicle towed to an authorized dealer. You need to erase the coded keys from your vehicle and program new coded keys."
"If your keys are lost or stolen and you do not have a spare correctly coded key, you will need to have your vehicle towed to an authorized dealer. You need to erase the coded keys from your vehicle and program new coded keys."
Yes, but PATS is an option, as is perimeter security. I have both. I wonder if having PATS is what makes door key operations electronic rather than mechanical?
Don't pull the door panel to win a beer! I think you are on to something with the "pats" and related systems. But, I still think the basic model have mechanical linkage to the key. I will pull the door panel on the next rental (Transit) I get.
The locks on my front doors are mechanical. I can watch the knob go up slowly if I turn the key slowly. I had my local locksmith make a key for $30 in case I lock myself out. He can add a chip to the key & program it to start the engine for $50 more, but I just wanted a key to unlock the doors. I don't have the security system.
Are the keypads you got basically just key fobs that mount on the door & you enter a code to get in?
Yes, self adhesive pad w/ non- replaceable battery. When it dies you peel it off and replace for $85.
$30 for a laser cut key is great! Cheapest I found so far for the key only no chip is $100. Not sure it would work with my two optional systems though.
Yes, but the locksmith needs a $10,000 laser cutting machine, that's why my guy wants $100 to help pay for his machine. Still don't think it would work on at least my locks.
The more I think about this, the key may? unlock the door, but opening it (door) may trigger the alarm thru the door light switches built into the latch now. If so, you will need to get at the FOB to silence it
I am going to start making T-shirsts to sell here: my "FORD TRANSIT is not a connect"
Great idea!
And yes, the alarm would sound, but I'd get to the hidden real key after a few horn honks . I would only use the key in emergency, I have three keyless pads.
I think the chip'd key HAS to be in the column ignition switch to start !
your test will be interesting, BUT how did the window tint come out?
and have you learned how to dis-able the perimeter alarm, so you can sneak in a out @ nite?
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