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Crawled under my '15 350HD on saturday and thought I would check the coupling for the transmission to the driveshaft after reading here that some were cracked and sure enough mine is. 30,000 Km on it and its cracked already. I tow a heavy trailer with my Transit and have visions of this thing disintegrating on the Interstate at high speed. Not exactly giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I dropped it off at the Ford dealer this morning and leave for Phoenix Thursday night so I hope they can work some magic and get it fixed or take one off a unit on the lot to get me going. I will be getting a spare for sure as it seems like there might be a problem with these couplings. I will update when I find out a path forward. In the meantime better check your couplings.:)
 

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Yep. that's how it starts. Did they say when the new one will be in?

Our was cracked like that and even worse and we just drove it until the new one came in. I figure that it will be along time before it gets to the point of complete failure of the rubber. A trip across country really wouldn't be an issue other than what goes on in your mind and I can understand how that could be. That's why I haven't told our drivers when it's cracked. I'm afraid that they will freak out.
 

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Did you tow with it or just the van driving around with no load? There is a considerable amount of stress on the joint when you are towing as opposed to not. I'm calling this morning to find out how long. I was wondering if it has some sort of metal core and then just wrapped with rubber? Then it wouldn't be so bad. Wouldn't be a good senerio if it came apart at 75 miles an hour. I will see what they say. Think I will order a spare and just carry it. Thanks for the info!
 

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Mine was cracked at 60k. (I have no idea how long it had been cracked--hadn't heard of the issue until then). Replaced under powertrain warranty. I haul and tow quite frequently.


The only good thing about getting it replaced is all replacement parts have a 2yr/unlimited mile warranty...so if the replacement cracks you should be able to get it covered.


I am at 86k now...need to crawl under and check it again.


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Did you tow with it or just the van driving around with no load? There is a considerable amount of stress on the joint when you are towing as opposed to not. I'm calling this morning to find out how long. I was wondering if it has some sort of metal core and then just wrapped with rubber? Then it wouldn't be so bad. Wouldn't be a good senerio if it came apart at 75 miles an hour. I will see what they say. Think I will order a spare and just carry it. Thanks for the info!
We don't tow. It is a long, tall passenger van capable of 11 passengers with luggage plus driver. Typically, it has 3-4 people and as many as 10. If we know we are going to have 9 passengers, we take a bigger bus for the times that there is an unexpected passenger.

Terrain isn't flat, but it's mostly gentle grades. From what the drivers have told me, it rarely shifts.
 

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My van is scheduled to be built the first week of January. I hope to God that when I crawl under it I don't see the same stinking part! I can only hope that by now they have replaced these at the factory with an upgraded part.

I'm going to bet it's been upgraded. I'll report my findings.
 

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Update on driveshaft coupling....

Talking to dealership yesterday and the coupling needs to be replaced as I expected.....They are flying two out from back East (Parts warehouse in Ontario) so I should get them Wednesday morning... One to install as a replacement under warrenty and the other for my glovebox for now as a spare I guess until I'm confident that FORD has this sorted out. Cutting things a bit tight for my departure south but better to get it fixed now than drop a driveshaft at freeway speeds.:)
 

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I don't know what Quigley does with the OEM parts that get removed when they convert the Transit, but they might have a big box of those couplings laying around the warehouse.
 

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The driveshaft would have to be cut, a yoke welded on and rebalanced. Then the mating part for the transmission. Having had a driveshaft specialist straighten and balance a shaft on my pickup- it gets expensive fast. Could buy 3 or 4 Giubos for what that alone cost...
 

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The driveshaft would have to be cut, a yoke welded on and rebalanced. Then the mating part for the transmission.
If the Guibo coupling proves to be a problem I plan to go this route.

I'll machine the trans/U-joint adapter myself and have the drive shaft cut down and a slip yoke put on and have the whole thing balanced. It might cost a little up front but it's a SOLID solution well proven in the heavy truck industry.

I've had some custom drive shaft work done in the past for projects and it's not crazy expensive. I've got a good shop near me to work with. I'm willing to bet I could do this for the price of a couple Guibos.

It would look something like this, coupled to a flange adapter ring plate.

 

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I'll machine the trans/U-joint adapter myself and have the drive shaft cut down and a slip yoke put on and have the whole thing balanced. It might cost a little up front but it's a SOLID solution well proven in the heavy truck industry.
Looks like a business opportunity to me.

I do expect Ford to do a redesign of the coupling that would also solve the issue.
 

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Reading up on the Giubo couplers besides allowing for slight driveline misalignments it seems they are also depended on to reduce shock to the drive train components.
Not sure what effect a solid U-joint type replacement would have on longevity. Ford engineers may have not designed the trans and rear axle to run without that shock absorption.
Maybe the aftermarket will come out with a more durable replacement Giubo.

Even though my Transit will be under powertrain warranty for a long while I may be embarking on a 10,000+ mile trip soon- you can bet a replacement Giubo will be in my spares kit, they can be had for about $50, not worth doing without especially when towing a trailer- last thing I want is a dealer to say "yep we'll fix it under warranty, we'll have the part in a few days"....I'd rather forfeit the $50 and be on my way in a few hours.
 

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Reading up on the Giubo couplers besides allowing for slight driveline misalignments it seems they are also depended on to reduce shock to the drive train components.
Not sure what effect a solid U-joint type replacement would have on longevity. Ford engineers may have not designed the trans and rear axle to run without that shock absorption.
Maybe the aftermarket will come out with a more durable replacement Giubo.
It sounds like we have been doing the same reading. One thing I'm curious about is the difference in drivetrains between the Transit and the F150 that - as I understand it - has the same transmission. If it's the same transmission, why the move to the coupler?
 

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I can only hope that by now they have replaced these at the factory with an upgraded part.

I'm going to bet it's been upgraded. I'll report my findings.
To me, this is just one of the first year bugs that'll get worked out...hopefully sooner rather than later. I don't think Ford hits the panic lights with something here or there wearing out prematurely, but if enough of these claims pile up..they have made changes at anytime during production in the past. The heads on the 5.4 engine, for example.

Ford is certainly aware of this, and if the one on my van is different than that picture I'll be pleasantly surprised. If not, then I'll replace it when the time comes and curse the bastards at Ford, right?

I wonder how many people around here with high miles can report no problems with it? Guido failure before 75K or so may not be a forgone conclusion.

IDK...but dreaming up a new driveshaft seems a bit drastic, for now...
 

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You are not an alarmist and I appreciate that when you are talking about the guido.

BUT, Ford has a track record of innovations that haven't quite worked out. As an owner of a truck with the 5.4l 3v that is dead at 118,000 miles with it's variable timing issues, spark plugs that break upon removal, electronic brain that controls the fuel pump that is made of aluminum and then mounted where salt and water can get to it and also mounted tight to the steel frame so that electrolysis can work its wonders, it makes me take pause.

Everyone will have their own experiences and I bought my Transit in spite of my previous experience.

Peter
 
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