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Can anyone tell me the height between the floor and front of the drivers seat on the 4-way swivel seats?
I'm asking about the 2020 Transit option 21T "Dark Palazzo Gray Cloth, 4-Way Manual Swivel Driver and 4-Way Manual Swivel Passenger Seats".

The 2-way cloth seats I test drove are almost exactly 17", which is a tad too high for a short person - seat has to go all the way forwards, which puts the knees too close to the dash.
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What are the 4-way adjustments, compared with 2-way for the stock seats (2 way appears to be forward/backward and tilt/recline); 4-way descriptions I've found here are an unhelpful "forward, backward, up, down", but it's hard to imagine a seat without recline adjustment.

I've scoured this forum and the web in general, without finding what I'm looking for.
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Can anyone tell me the height between the floor and front of the drivers seat on the 4-way swivel seats?
I'm asking about the 2020 Transit option 21T "Dark Palazzo Gray Cloth, 4-Way Manual Swivel Driver and 4-Way Manual Swivel Passenger Seats".

The 2-way cloth seats I test drove are almost exactly 17", which is a tad too high for a short person - seat has to go all the way forwards, which puts the knees too close to the dash.
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What are the 4-way adjustments, compared with 2-way for the stock seats (2 way appears to be forward/backward and tilt/recline); 4-way descriptions I've found here are an unhelpful "forward, backward, up, down", but it's hard to imagine a seat without recline adjustment.

I've scoured this forum and the web in general, without finding what I'm looking for.
You probably need to look at the pictures from some of the posts I have made on the Transits that have arrived at Matt Ford. I have pictures of the seat that show the features and the location knobs for adjustments for the seat. With the seat being on the rotating platform for the swivel seat, it may not be any lower than the 2 way seat. On the Transit Passenger vans as well as the CrewVans ordered as stock ordered units for the dealership, I ordered the 10 way power/heated seats as these give you the best positioning for the seat especially for the shorter height persons. With the 10 way seat, you have a way to lower and tilt forward the seat if you need to get closer to the wheel and if you need to raise or lower the steering column, you just pull down the release under the steering wheel and it gives you another adjustment point.

I left the dealership yesterday so I can't give you the EXACT measurements you are looking for but there are other forum members who may do that for you and others here so we know about the difference in the 2 different manual seats.
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Wonderful, thanks.
From the pics, it seems like in addition to the yellow swivel lever, there is the usual under-knee bar for the fore-aft slide, left side recliner adjust, and three knobs: on the drivers side #1 right-front, #2 right-rear, and #3 right side in the backrest. I can speculate that #1 is up-down (hopefully), #3 is lumbar cushion, perhaps - but any idea what #2 controls?
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Wonderful, thanks.
From the pics, it seems like in addition to the yellow swivel lever, there is the usual under-knee bar for the fore-aft slide, left side recliner adjust, and three knobs: on the drivers side #1 right-front, #2 right-rear, and #3 right side in the backrest. I can speculate that #1 is up-down (hopefully), #3 is lumbar cushion, perhaps - but any idea what #2 controls?
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#1 (lever) is pump up/down for overall seat height.
#1 (knob) is twist up/down for front of seat height.
#2 is twist for back angle.
#3 is lumbar and driver side only.

I just spent 2,500 miles in them and I find I prefer these controls over the preset ratchet option in my car. There is plenty of fine adjustment and I have no desire for power seats.

One added feature provided by Ford, is a beeper front center by the yellow handle to remind you that your seat is not locked forward any time the key is on. Also conveniently next to it is a plug to disconnect it. :)
 

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Updating this old thread as I've finally installed an Amazing Autos transit power seat swivel (SKU:DPP006 Passenger side) which adds about 1.75" to the power seat height without any motor mods or spacers..just a direct bolt on product.
For me, my SO is 5' with short legs so swivel seat height is a critical limiting factor. I'll list now the lowest seat heights for the following configurations for anyone's reference (height is from rubber factory floor to front of seat stitching):
Factory 10 way ~13.5".
10 way power seat + Amazing Auto power seat swivel ~15" (new photo included for reference).
Factory manual swivel seat ~ 16.5" (see photos above)
Factory manual seat ~16"

To conclude, I'm happy I ordered the 10 way power seats as I also get the worlds hottest seat heaters and also the large range of adjustability making it work well with the amazing auto swivels.
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