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Long story short my friend bought a Promaster last year this same time (tax's before 1st of year) I had talked with him in August how he liked it. He said it had good points, but felt cheap. I let him know I was gonna order a transit, he said, ya he would have but he needed the pro right away for his locksmith biz. Ran into him today, he has this shiz eatin grin on his face and asks if I got mine yet? Nope. he then laughs and says he got his Dec 29. hr regular length. no ford touch etc. He now has on his fleet a pro and a transit, he told me not to get too anxious and cancel the transit for a promaster, he said yup, it is that much better, do your self a favor and wait.

Kinda neat to be able to talk to one person that owns em both!
 

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he told me not to get too anxious and cancel the transit for a promaster, he said yup, it is that much better, do your self a favor and wait.
I am bouncing back and forth on canceling the order or to keep waiting with no defined date given. So thanks for posting that. Swayed me back to trying to patient and keep waiting.
 

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About a month ago my Ford dealer got a used Promaster from an auto auction. They have since moved it to the back row of the used lot!

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Reviving the dead is magic, and thus magic is REAL and God is a lie!

Also, even though I bought a Transit, the Sprinter IS nicer, drives better, is quieter, etc. But it's too **** expensive for someone in my socio-economic class to justify owning when there are other options such as the Transit or DucatoMaster. New Transit at $26k is more practical than a new Sprinter at $42k.
 

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Also, even though I bought a Transit, the Sprinter IS nicer, drives better, is quieter, etc.
Funny how some people have the opposite opinion. Drove a 08 NCV3 Sprinter for 5 years and 56,000 miles. I consider the Transit a much better vehicle that drives far better, handles much better and is quieter. So far the Transit has not had a limp home failure nor has it tried to kill me or others by going into LHM at the wrong time.

You could not get me back into a Sprinter.
 

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Funny how some people have the opposite opinion. Drove a 08 NCV3 Sprinter for 5 years and 56,000 miles. I consider the Transit a much better vehicle that drives far better, handles much better and is quieter. So far the Transit has not had a limp home failure nor has it tried to kill me or others by going into LHM at the wrong time.

You could not get me back into a Sprinter.
Comparing a 2008 sprinter to a 2016 Transit doesn't seem like a particularly fair fight. I venture to guess some 2016 Transit owners saddled with a few of its growing list of documented shortcomings might be yearning for a 2016 Sprinter.
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Comparing a 2008 sprinter to a 2016 Transit doesn't seem like a particularly fair fight. I venture to guess some 2016 Transit owners saddled with a few of its growing list of documented shortcomings might be yearning for a 2016 Sprinter.
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My 2008 Sprinter was the same NCV3 as they are now selling. V6 with a 5 speed transmission that does not downshift when it should. The better 7 speed 4 cylinder is no longer for sale due to emission issues. Actually my 08 was better than the new ones because it did not have the DEF system that has caused numerous issues.

Expect the new model next year to be improved and to offer a gas engine. Mercedes must be looking at the sales figures of the Transit that is mostly gas engines. If they offer a gas engine I would expect their sales to increase. The 3 pointed star is very important to some people.

I expected some new design issues with the Transit. So far the only major ones are the incorrectly designed coupling and the air cleaner. Not too bad for a new design.

I would not trade my 2015 Transit with 17,000 miles for a brand new 2017 Sprinter. Been there done that and never again. Do have a bit of Daimler stock which has been a much better investment than the Sprinter is a vehicle. Daimler does a fantastic job of marketing inferior products IMO.
 

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Dave, you might not even realise it, but you trash the Sprinter relentlessly. Just give it a break for the sake of your many followers. We get it, you HATE the Sprinter.:)
 

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to each his own. Having test driven the 2016 Sprinter, in my opinion it's much nicer than the Transit or ProCato. But it's just not WORTH almost twice as much as a new Transit (people who paid close to sticker for their Transit, I'm sorry, you were ripped off). We can debate how durable or reliable the Sprinter is, but there are MANY people who have zero issues in over 200k miles. And some who had breakdowns with less than 20k. Same with the Transit. I think the people who don't know how to drive or didn't read the manual for their vehicle are the ones having early problems.

If I had to buy another van tomorrow, it would be a Transit. But not because I think they're better, or want to support Merikuns who assemble foreign made parts, but because it's the best value for the money. In a few years when I cash out of the real estate, I might get another Sprinter. But there might be something else in the market by then, too. The Hyundai is looking pretty good. Or maybe Ford will offer a plug in hybrid Transit.
 

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I'd be all over a gas Sprinter if they made a smaller one. My 118 was perfect. The new ones are overkill and diesel is an epic fail waiting to happen.
 

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to each his own. Having test driven the 2016 Sprinter, in my opinion it's much nicer than the Transit or ProCato. But it's just not WORTH almost twice as much as a new Transit (people who paid close to sticker for their Transit, I'm sorry, you were ripped off). We can debate how durable or reliable the Sprinter is, but there are MANY people who have zero issues in over 200k miles. And some who had breakdowns with less than 20k. Same with the Transit. I think the people who don't know how to drive or didn't read the manual for their vehicle are the ones having early problems.

If I had to buy another van tomorrow, it would be a Transit. But not because I think they're better, or want to support Merikuns who assemble foreign made parts, but because it's the best value for the money. In a few years when I cash out of the real estate, I might get another Sprinter. But there might be something else in the market by then, too. The Hyundai is looking pretty good. Or maybe Ford will offer a plug in hybrid Transit.
Your analysis is balanced and on the money, pun intended. The other prohibitive Sprinter issue for me is spotty warranty support when traveling afar. A Canadian Sprinter dealer here told me I would have to pay up front for any work done when traveling in the US, and claim it back in Canada!!




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Something I read today: Volvo will not make any more any straight gas/diesel cars starting 2019. They will only build and sell full electric or hybrid cars. Doesn't Ford own Volvo?

Anyway, this is the start. Many other car companies will be doing the same. Looks good for a hybrid Transit in the nearer future.
 

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Something I read today: Volvo will not make any more any straight gas/diesel cars starting 2019. They will only build and sell full electric or hybrid cars. Doesn't Ford own Volvo?
Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co., Ltd, a Chinese multinational automotive manufacturing company, acquired Volvo from Ford in 1999.
 
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