[alarmist]

Step one: Read manual for parts required. Try not to stroke out when you see how poorly written the manual is.

Step two: Order giubo and related fasteners. At this point, the manual starts to look pretty good in comparison to the dealer parts computer. That POS indicates there are only 2 nuts needed for the 3 bolts which hold the giubo to the driveshaft. There are obviously 3 and, with gentle but firm direction, you CAN convince the counter guy to order all 3. Don't back down.

Step three: wait for parts.

Further bulletins as events warrant.

 

[klp]

Step four - are you out of warranty? This sounds like a job for the dealer to me!

 

[alarmist]

False economy. I'd lose more in lost business waiting for a dealer to get it done, or worse, spending a day getting my gear out of the transit and into my backup van, putting it back, etc. Then there is the 90% chance (in my extensive experience) the dealer will screw it up.

 

[TXAggie]

At 70,178 miles took my Transit 350HD Wagon in for regular oil change and inspections per my extended warranty. Asked them to check the Guibo too. At 61,000 it was ok (or so they said). At 70,178 it was so cracked that they advised against driving it. They ordered the new part & and oil filter they didn't have in stock and said it would be finished next day. Oh, and the repair is out of normal warranty but covered under extended warranty for $100 deductible.

Wagon was finished next afternoon. Paid the $100 deductible. I'm not mechanical enough, nor do I have the tools, to do it myself, so I deal with the dealer's service shop. I think this is the first & last time I ever spend the outrageous money on an extended warranty.

My hat's off to those of you who can do the service yourself.

 

[bicyclist]

Then there is the 90% chance (in my extensive experience) the dealer will screw it up.

With you there, brother. How about taking some pics so I don't screw it up when the time comes.

 

[alarmist]

I'm hoping there isn't more to it than appears on the surface. I suspect I will need to undo the center bearing holder to slide the shaft rearward, but we shall see. The general plan is to sling the shaft with tie downs or something, unbolt what I gotta unbolt to get the coupling out, put in the new one, and get back to work. I expect to be doing this regularly as Ford saw fit to put the same component on the EB they put on the 103 hp Euro version. wtf?

 

[Budsky]

One thing I noticed- don't lose or screw up the 6 bolts holding the giubo- they cost over $100 a set. More than the giubo itself!

 

[alarmist]

All 9 (6 bolts, 3 nuts) are about $30 for the set and they get replaced with the giubo. Ford is definitely into selling nuts and bolts. Seems like half the hardware on the van is either torque to yield or just called out for replacement. In applications like the brakes and giubo, I'm not going to question this. They say new, she gets new.

 

[Michael Ophus]

bolts get stretched with initial torque and with use, even grade 8 ones, i have been involved with people moving machinery and inspectors have shown me that they stretch by holding a new 64mm bolt next to a used one! (easier to see with big bolts, but they could have miked smaller bolts)

 

[surly Bill]

I read a write-up on replacing it somewhere before, if I recall correctly it is a 1 beer job requiring no special tools or skills.

 

[alarmist]

OK. Have the bits. The torque spec for the giubo to trans bolts is 150nm or roughly 80% of max for that size/grade bolt. Given they are precoated with thread locking paste, this is unremarkable. The nuts/bolts connecting the giubo to the shaft are dry and the nuts are elliptical locking type. No spec is listed in the manual. Any suggestions on what to torque them to? Max (180nm)? A bit more to account for friction from the locknut? Am I overthinking this?

 

[bmet]

Had mine replaced today

The Guibo replacement fell into step 3 in my case.

1. Have Ford replace recalled seat belts.
2. Have Ford install water management stuff for air filter problem
3. Have Ford replace cracked guibo

My wagon is at 49,000 miles, so i thought I would take a look a look at that big rubber donut and see how it was doing. Below is a shot of it before the repair

For the record, the service writer said my repair was not finished yesterday because the tech was going to have to pull the driveshaft to complete the replacement. I don't know if that is true or not, but I would make sure I had a clear testimony before I cranked those bolts.

Also, in regards to the bolt torque, would they have the correct torque on them now, before you loosen them? In other words, could you apply tightening force with your wrench to see when the needle moves, thereby determining the correct amount? Considering that they are compressing a giant rubber coupling, maybe not...

 

[alarmist]

They compress steel sleeves molded into the giubo. Said sleeves protrude about 3/16". Three towards the trans, 3 towards the shaft. So with the bolts out and the giubo rotated 30º or so, you get about 3/8" of slack in the interface. There is also a splined junction behind the center support bearing that, should it be needed, might allow further separation. I expect this to be easy for anyone but a dealer mechanic, whose ilk could total a vehicle trying to air up a tire.

 

[alarmist]

Step 4: Order a couple of tools to make it easier.

Crawled under the van to look things over. Tool clearances are tight. Not wanting to wrestle elliptical locknuts with a ratchet and an adjustable wrench, I ordered a U joint for my impact gun and an extra long 21mm combo wrench.

 

[Budsky]

One thing I noticed- don't lose or screw up the 6 bolts holding the giubo- they cost over $100 a set. More than the giubo itself!

All 9 (6 bolts, 3 nuts) are about $30 for the set and they get replaced with the giubo. Ford is definitely into selling nuts and bolts. Seems like half the hardware on the van is either torque to yield or just called out for replacement. In applications like the brakes and giubo, I'm not going to question this. They say new, she gets new.

Where are you getting them for $30 total?
Ford shows the 6 bolts at $12.74 ea
and the 3 nuts at $11.10 ea

Total $109.74

Even with the 25% discount that can usually be had it is still $82.31.

Maybe you are getting non OEM bolts for $30...???

 

[alarmist]

On my invoice they came out to 4.29 for the bolts and 1.35 for the nuts. Too bad it doesn't use deer nuts. Those are under a buck.

 

[alarmist]

http://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2015-ford-transit/drive-shaft-rear-axle-drive.html

Really cheap vendor. 58¢ for the nuts. You have to admit $11 for a nut is clearly some kind of typo.

 

[orton]

Too bad it doesn't use deer nuts. Those are under a buck.

I always wondered where they were.

 

[Budsky]

http://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts-list/2015-ford-transit/drive-shaft-rear-axle-drive.html

Really cheap vendor. 58¢ for the nuts. You have to admit $11 for a nut is clearly some kind of typo.

I don't know- some of the prices I've seen for Ford parts were really outrageous- I looked up some $1 plastic doodad once and they showed $180!


Those Ford Parts Giant guys are pretty good- a few years ago I cleaned them out of every NOS Ford external bypass trans filter they had for something like 10% of their original cost..
Only thing for me is shipping is a killer from the west to east coast.

 

[alarmist]

Figured out the price discrepancy on nuts and bolts for the giubo. Ford packages nuts and bolts in bags of 2, 3, 4 etc. and the price on their website is for the bag. I decided to pick up the 2 bolts for the center bearing in case I need to pull them to make the job easier. Had to buy 4 of them from the dealer I went to. Not a problem as it looks like I'll need a giubo every third oil change.