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My guess would be that the height difference is attributed to the several inches sacrificed by the finished ceiling trim and headliner. I learned this when looking at sprinters several months back. For a tall person, that several inches is quite noticeable...enough for me to consider the van rather than the wagon.
I downloaded a PDF that also showed the medium roof cargo van at 72 inches and the passenger wagon at just under 5'-8". I also assume the difference is due to headliner, and added floor thickness for padding and carpet. It may also allow for clearance for air conditioning duct. Don't know how it's run in Transit but on my E-350 passenger van the rear AC duct runs down the middle and reduces headroom about 3 inches or so.
Thank you Orton! Your actual measurement is VERY helpful!
My face is red over a typo in my original post. The "cargo height" of the high roof is 81.5", not 71.5". There still is 4.5" difference, which according to Orton's measurement is probably flooring, headliner, and ducts, not roof ribs.
In a camper conversion this extra high space allows for a 50" living-room under a 30" loft, with 1.5" for flooring. I'm hoping for about 8" of window above the loft to allow for "infinity windows" in the loft.
My face is red over a typo in my original post. The "cargo height" of the high roof is 81.5", not 71.5". There still is 4.5" difference, which according to Orton's measurement is probably flooring, headliner, and ducts, not roof ribs.
In a camper conversion this extra high space allows for a 50" living-room under a 30" loft, with 1.5" for flooring. I'm hoping for about 8" of window above the loft to allow for "infinity windows" in the loft.
Are you thinking of a permanent loft or like a bed that drops down at night? A 50-inch living area should be adequate for sitting or sleeping, but it's not a lot of height for many camping activities.
I wouldn't be interested in the high roof, but since the extended van only comes that way, I've thought about a similar arrangement that makes use of added headroom. At RV show last week we saw quite a few RVs with powered drop-down beds. Murphy beds in some also saved space.
I tried to use the medium height Transit for my application but determined that I need the tall Transit. Like the looks of the medium height but it forced too many compromises. I will have a 30" tall table at the back with benches over the wheel wells. There will be four 27" wide panels that are hinged at the wall. Two on each side. They fold down from the wall and meet at the center of the table to create the bed platform. Two rear ones folded down for a one person bed and all four for two people. Tall van allows the panels to be long enough to be able to meet at the table centerline.
Chance, thanks for asking. My plan has an office/family entertainment room in the middle with a gaucho seat/bed on one side and a desk/large-monitor/drawers on the other. The fixed loft with infinity windows is over this, and allows two living areas to be used at the same time. 30" is barely enough for a nice dedicated fun area and bed, and 50" is more than the 48" in an F150 cab. In the rear is a full stand-up "gourmet micro-kitchen" with a 4.5 foot wide custom stainless sink, range, oven, panini, breadmaker, blendtec, that doubles as a bathroom/utility room. Front is 4 seats including the driver's, a small standup entrance area, and overhead storage. This will be my third Sportsmobile in life, hopefully Sportsmobile will soon be able to do the 4WD OFFROAD conversion, my current Ford-Sportsmobile has 4WD on 35" tires.
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Might be easier to get a picture of the Loch Ness Monster...or maybe Big Foot...than it would be to stand in a Transit. Ford is in no hurry....I will assume there is a reason for making this van release drag out. Hopefully not a disappointment like the promaster.
I stood up in the bare medium height weldment at the LA auto show. The available height is 71 1/2" on the van centerline with less toward the sides. I really wanted to make the medium height Ford work for my conversion. It has about 4 1/2" less height than my 08 high roof Sprinter. Could not make it work with my 70" height so I will have to buy the high roof. I have a 1 1/2" thick additional floor to allow insulation and a path for utilities and a 1/4" thick ceiling. Just too close.
Thats not too bad I guess.
The average american is a bit shorter than you so for most i don't see it being that much of a problem
I guess the particular Transit you stood in wouldn't be tall enough for me if I'm 6'4" and about 300 pounds! lol I would have to step up to the T350HD Extended Dually with Jumbo roof in order for me to stand up. I certainly would need the dually axle capability in order to hold up my lardo weight!!
By the way, this is my first post here after lurking for awhile. I like this place and look forward to talking with fellow Econoline and Transit enthusiasts.
Can't wait to see what Sportsmobile does with the Transit! 35" tires are almost up to your kitchen cabinets, with 4WD are great for rock crawling.
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Could you be a little more specific about what you didn't like in the Promaster?
Thanks, Bill in NC
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