[Jason521]

Any suggestions on how you’d secure this risk racing lock n load pro?

I planned to have a floating floor using 2 layers minicell, then birch, then some type of vinyl all glued down. The mounting plate for this I’m guessing needs to be bolted through the floor. Would you guys just bolt it through all the layers, and do you think that’d warp the top wood layer? I am also concerned with the holes through the van with the forces from securing my bike if it will make the metal raw and rust through.

Any suggestions?

 

[tngw1500se]

Personally, I'd put the bike on a small trailer. I wouldn't want it in the vehicle in case of an accident and I'd also not want the fuel inside.

 

[Jason521]

Personally, I'd put the bike on a small trailer. I wouldn't want it in the vehicle in case of an accident and I'd also not want the fuel inside.

It’s 100% going inside haha. But I do understand your concerns! Maybe a safety strap to the rear would be a good idea just in case.

 

[crossstudio]

I’m planning to do just what you are doing in terms of hold down for the bike. I’m planning to haul up to three at a time. The plan is to bolt the track down to the van floor and then put a plate on the underside of the van body. I’ll paint everything before I install it and then once it is bolted in I’ll spray undercoating on the bottom side to seal it all up and keep the rust away. The plate on the bottom side will help spread the load out and also give some extras strength.
I wouldn’t try to mount the rail on top of all the layers for the reasons you pointed out and also I think recessing it will make it nice when I’m not hauling bikes.
I have no reservations about hauling the bikes inside the van. Gas smell isn’t really an issue as it is inside the bike’s tank. Safety isn’t a concern because the bike is basically held in place with straps and then also the device you have pictured. The straps are just an extra layer of protection but not really needed.
I’m still waiting for my van to arrive and it should be here in a couple of weeks. I’ll be getting the bikes setup as soon I get the van and will post pics as I get things installed.

 

[Jason521]

I’m planning to do just what you are doing in terms of hold down for the bike. I’m planning to haul up to three at a time. The plan is to bolt the track down to the van floor and then put a plate on the underside of the van body. I’ll paint everything before I install it and then once it is bolted in I’ll spray undercoating on the bottom side to seal it all up and keep the rust away. The plate on the bottom side will help spread the load out and also give some extras strength.
I wouldn’t try to mount the rail on top of all the layers for the reasons you pointed out and also I think recessing it will make it nice when I’m not hauling bikes.
I have no reservations about hauling the bikes inside the van. Gas smell isn’t really an issue as it is inside the bike’s tank. Safety isn’t a concern because the bike is basically held in place with straps and then also the device you have pictured. The straps are just an extra layer of protection but not really needed.
I’m still waiting for my van to arrive and it should be here in a couple of weeks. I’ll be getting the bikes setup as soon I get the van and will post pics as I get things installed.

The problem with recessing it is you won’t be able to slide out the tall peg things. They slide out to either side. I mean unless you left room for them to slide out in your floor, but that’d look kind of bad.

Yeah definitely post pics! I’d be interested to see what you end up doing.

 

[crossstudio]

The problem with recessing it is you won’t be able to slide out the tall peg things. They slide out to either side. I mean unless you left room for them to slide out in your floor, but that’d look kind of bad.

Yeah definitely post pics! I’d be interested to see what you end up doing.

Was going to do just that...leave room on either side to slide them out. Maybe try to come up with a cover plate of sorts when the mounts aren’t in place. Not sure yet without the van here and the floor I’m planning to install. I’ll keep you posted.

 

[pjf]

Any suggestions on how you’d secure this risk racing lock n load pro?

I planned to have a floating floor using 2 layers minicell, then birch, then some type of vinyl all glued down. The mounting plate for this I’m guessing needs to be bolted through the floor. Would you guys just bolt it through all the layers, and do you think that’d warp the top wood layer? I am also concerned with the holes through the van with the forces from securing my bike if it will make the metal raw and rust through.

Any suggestions?

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I was going to go with the same mounting system (risk racing) but i was worried about my large adventure bike as mentioned in an accident etc..

I decided to go this route. bolting through the floor to unistrut below for strength etc... I dont want tie downs and a large wheel chock rack like most have.

Trailer Restraint System - KTM SX, SX-F, XC, XC-F models ('13-'20)

Fits KTM axle part number: 77710085044 NOTE: See Fitting Notes tab for detailed bike fitment information. The Pit Bull Trailer Restraint System is a revolutionary way to transport your motorc

www.pit-bull.com

 

[Jason521]

I was going to go with the same mounting system (risk racing) but i was worried about my large adventure bike as mentioned in an accident etc..

I decided to go this route. bolting through the floor to unistrut below for strength etc... I dont want tie downs and a large wheel chock rack like most have.

Trailer Restraint System - KTM SX, SX-F, XC, XC-F models ('13-'20)

Fits KTM axle part number: 77710085044 NOTE: See Fitting Notes tab for detailed bike fitment information. The Pit Bull Trailer Restraint System is a revolutionary way to transport your motorc

www.pit-bull.com

Seems like it’d mount like the lock n load. Do you also have a floating floor with insulation? Did you paint the holes and seal them with something? Any protection between unistrut and van underbody? Thanks!

 

[Magile]

Before seeing the Risk system I was looking at the Bolt It On system. They offer Transit specific moto configurations that mount on the seat anchor points already in the floor (so no drilling). We haul either two trail bikes or two Adv bikes. ymmv M

Bolt It On

 

[Jason521]

Before seeing the Risk system I was looking at the Bolt It On system. They offer Transit specific moto configurations that mount on the seat anchor points already in the floor (so no drilling). We haul either two trail bikes or two Adv bikes. ymmv M

Bolt It On

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Yeah I’ve seen this. I definitely like the lock n load style more. Takes a little pressure off the forks too and overall would just be cleaner. I’m getting the Moab bed to go over my dirtbike and doing open floor plan (garage not walled off). So the bolt it on would be something to step over with the bike in. Cool idea though and I’ve seen a lot of good reviews on it.

 

[klp]

I use free standing wheel chocks from Cycle Gear. They are Condor rip offs basically but work great. Nothing is bolted down, remove them when not needed. You will need to butt them up against something to keep them from moving and allowing the straps to get loose.

You could gain more security by bolting through the floor, runs plates underneath, try to hit frame rails. Paint everything careful and you are good to go.

Regarding security you are basically screwed in a serious wreck. The only thing that would offer any protection is a serious bulkhead. I run mostly street bikes inside but the game is the same. I am used to measuring risk and accept what it is.

My current setup is a Mototote hitch hauler so I have options - I am also buying a tiny toy hauler.

 

[njbill]

It’s 100% going inside haha. But I do understand your concerns! Maybe a safety strap to the rear would be a good idea just in case.

I carry dirt bikes in the van all the time. In fact, dirt bikes and mountain bikes are the only reason for my van. I also sleep inside the van with the bikes. If the bikes are fuel injected, gas fumes are not an issues.

I use a full length cross bar to chock my bikes. I also run a heavy duty strap from the rear d-ring to the foot peg. I am off all summer so I travel very long distances with bikes in the back. Keeping them from coming forward in a collision is a real concern.

 

[shakazulu12]

I've seen photos of bikes hanging upside down in trailers that flipped using the Pitbull system with race bikes that weigh double what a dirtbike does. I've never mounted them in a Transit, though there are posts from people on here that did. But they were all I used in two trailers and an Express van. Super popular in club racing for street bikes. Though the strength of the sheetmetal/mountain surface is going to be the determining factor here.

ETA: Looks like Pitbull even has a photo and testimonial about it on their website

Trailer restraint in crash

 

[AzB]

The advantage of the boltiton type system is that it easily adapts to an infinite type of bikes. It also completely removes in like 45 seconds. Not even any hardware left behind.

While the pitbull system is cleaner, it is for one specific bike, and you have to buy adapters for each different bike you tote.

Problem is; I have lots of bikes, and I have friends. It would cost a fortune to set up my van for 3 bikes of 15 different brands using the pitbull system.

 

[pjf]

Seems like it’d mount like the lock n load. Do you also have a floating floor with insulation? Did you paint the holes and seal them with something? Any protection between unistrut and van underbody? Thanks!

Haven't installed them yet so all if this is sort of an unknown, but that's the plan.

Installing a plywood floor with furring strips underneath etc... then like coin mat floor over plywood. All holes i make will be primed or painted and most likley going to use stainless uni-strut. I don't want a tall 2-3" floor like some have done as i don't want to loose the head room. I finally don't hit my head on everything with the tall roof. (lol)

As far as the fuel smell in the van, I'm still working on that plan, but i hate to say so far those EPA safe red gas cans are the only ones that seal well enough, but they are a pain to use etc... Bike is run out of fuel before loaded, so that's not an issue. I hate towing trailers if i can avoid it. I also didnt want to build a wall. Not only would that elevate the build cost, but i do really like have the entire van space open once unloaded. It's like a small apartment. (lol)

Pitbull system seemed the safest from what research i have done. The Bolt-it-on setup is what most people go with, but i wanted an open floor once the bikes are out and i would always have to remove this and place it somewhere outside the van when camping. Pitbull system is bike specific as mentioned, but i only take myself usually, so thats not a big deal. You do have the mount arm you have to store when not using it, but i like the flush plate left on the floor after the bikes are unloaded. Also as mentioned, Pitbull has done accident testing on the system and i think as long as its bolted to the floor in the most secure way, it wont be an issue.

 

[AzB]

I carry my gas cans on a hitch platform. Usually put my ramp on it too, since it rattles a bunch and drives me crazy when its inside.

The hitch platform sits well below the floor line and doesn't interfere with opening the doors or loading bikes when its empty.

 

[njbill]

I carry my gas cans on a hitch platform. Usually put my ramp on it too, since it rattles a bunch and drives me crazy when its inside.

The hitch platform sits well below the floor line and doesn't interfere with opening the doors or loading bikes when its empty.

Can you post a picture of this setup? I'd like to get my ramp out of the van.

 

[AzB]

I'll grab a pic next time I go racing. I dont leave it hooked up otherwise. But this is the exact one I bought.

500 lb. Steel Cargo Carrier

There are larger and better built ones. But the cheapo works fine for 10 gals of fuel, the ramp, toolbox, and ez up.

 

[AzB]

Skip to 49s in this video and you can see my van in the background.

 

[njbill]

I'll grab a pic next time I go racing. I dont leave it hooked up otherwise. But this is the exact one I bought.

500 lb. Steel Cargo Carrier

There are larger and better built ones. But the cheapo works fine for 10 gals of fuel, the ramp, toolbox, and ez up.

Thanks. I was most interested in how you secure your ramp to the carrier. My ramp LINK is bi-fold and solid aluminum surface. I'd like to transport it outside the van but I'm concerned the wind might catch it an turn it into a sail.