Hi, new owner, of t350xlt 3.5 15 wagon. I am going to tear out the pretty stuff in the back to build a mobile workshop. does anyone know how to bypass, sublimate or deactivate rear curtain airbags without affecting the rest of the airbag system, or throwing a fault code?
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User 'rascorp' has removed his rear airbags. I think he's still got error codes, not sure. I'm sure you could gleen some enlightenment from his account. I'm on my phone, so won't find the link. Use Advanced Search, or keep an eye out for his thread in the Active Topics list.
Companies make airbag simulators to fool the computer. Many use them for race cars and auto body repair.
Might work for your use.
www.airbagsystems.com/simulator.html
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Here's the thread where rascorp talks about removing the rear airbags: http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/camper-vans-conversions/19938-removal-rear-c-unit.html
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Excellent info for those of us stripping out the passenger seats. looks like easy parts$29 each and no code. I will supply details post install.
Removal of side curtain airbags
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Hi: I saw you inquiry today. I purchased the 2015 HD 350 Wagon. Did not know it had side curtain airbags until delivery. To achieve my build out I had to remove both sides. I removed them without incident. I made sure to disconnect battery power. I let unit sit for a day to make sure all residual voltage was discharged. At each airbag electrical connection, I separated the wire, cutting one wire at a time. I made sure I was not standing in front of unit, and braced myself. Wore protective cloths/goggles etc. Make sure you mark the location where you cut the wires so you don't forget where they are located. I put making tape on metal frame. YES the dash airbag default light is on! After exhausting research on how to fix the system, making sure the light was out but the front airbag were still working I decided to try replacing those cut wire junctions with resisters as recommended by a couple of brave, unwilling, ford mechanics. Seems as soon as you tell someone you have disconnected the airbag system, you need to get ready for them to pick up phone and call 911, or the Sheriff To see if they can have you arrested. At least that was the reaction from the Dealers I spoke to. I have not found the answer to getting the dash fault light off. I figure someone will eventually come up with a procedure how to fix this issue.
Please let me know if you find the answer
I posted a solution a few posts up.
Removing a vehicle safety device is against the law but so are a lot of things.
Airbags aren't nitro glycerin bombs. They are quite safe and the stories of them going off due to shaking them or whatever are from way back when they were new and are mostly folklore. No, you don't cut the hot wires but unplugging them is safe. Auto body shops do it daily by the thousands.
It probably happens literally 100,000 times a day across the US and you never hear about one going off accidentally.
Removing a vehicle safety device is against the law but so are a lot of things.
Airbags aren't nitro glycerin bombs. They are quite safe and the stories of them going off due to shaking them or whatever are from way back when they were new and are mostly folklore. No, you don't cut the hot wires but unplugging them is safe. Auto body shops do it daily by the thousands.
It probably happens literally 100,000 times a day across the US and you never hear about one going off accidentally.
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Thanks for your comments.
Yes, I guessed, that it was a federal crime to tamper with the airbags, but I did not want to see my shelves and appliances placed along those walls blown off in the event of a side impact accident. This Marine has always been about following rules, however in this situation one can easily surmise that once the reason for the airbags is permanently removed, ie all seats, then there can be no rational reason for allowing the airbags to stay... Sometimes "big brother" is just a pain in the rear.
Thanks for your comments.
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I contacted airbag systems in texas. i confirmed they have a bypass for each airbag, normaly used to test the systems . each bags simulator is $29, plus shipping for 2 rear curtains was $70. these allow removal of bags and not affect the rest of the system.
I contacted airbag systems in texas. i confirmed they have a bypass for each airbag, normaly used to test the systems . each bags simulator is $29, plus shipping for 2 rear curtains was $70. these allow removal of bags and not affect the rest of the system.
Just did some reading on the NHTSA website regarding airbags. The only airbags that are covered by law are the FRONT driver and passenger airbags. SIDE airbags are NOT required by law. I'd say you're still within the rules!
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/Air+Bags/Side-Impact+Air+Bags
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/Air+Bags/Side-Impact+Air+Bags
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I brought back this discussion on disabling the airbags from the Transit wagon. You might use the information in post #9 to contact:
www.airbagsystems.com/simulator.html
www.airbagsystems.com/simulator.html
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I know this is a super old thread. However, thought I would add to it. I am not handy and definitely a novice. I was able to remove the side curtain airbags from a 2015 Transit 350 without issue. I did disconnect the battery and remove the SRS fuse prior to the tear down. Once removed, I installed the simulators from Air Bag Systems (link above). The Transit requires 4 simulators. NOTE the simulators have to go in a specific way. There is an indentation / small dot near the prongs on the simulators. That dot needs to be up, towards the ceiling. Airbag light is out. No reset or ODB2 scanner required. Hooked up battery, and works perfect.
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Thanks for the follow-up; great to know.
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We just successfully removed the airbags but have had a hard time finding a place to dispose them. The hazardous recycling place won't take them and I don't want to just throw them in a dumpster. Any suggestions??
One additional bit of info on the orientation of the $29 simulators that you connect. As @bendermichael says above, they need to be oriented correctly. the dot is visible when looking at the prongs, and the dot needs to be on the same side as the yellow portion of the plug. Otherwise the airbag light won’t go out.
took me some trial and error to figure that one out. kinda annoying they didn’t come with that instruction.
took me some trial and error to figure that one out. kinda annoying they didn’t come with that instruction.
So.... just to keep all info I've found on this in one thread, I'll also post the video below. This guy has his simulators plugged in differently than I did mine. His are plugged in perpendicularly, and mine are plugged in directly in to the yellow and black end.
Looks like we ordered from the same company. I have no idea if the simulators are the same. My airbag light is off. Orientation matters, but it looks like he used a different orientation than I did.
That's a long way of saying "there is an important bit of information that I can't give you" ?♂
No need to spend on airbag simulators, all you need is a 4 ohm resistor. Wire it in place of the airbag and presto, no dash light.
Also no need for all these precautions when unplugging airbags, just unplug them, they won't go off. We fired them once removed to negate the hazmat disposal problem. Unfired airbags are nearly impossible to get rid of, fired ones can go in the trash. It's also kinda fun, BIG bang.
Also no need for all these precautions when unplugging airbags, just unplug them, they won't go off. We fired them once removed to negate the hazmat disposal problem. Unfired airbags are nearly impossible to get rid of, fired ones can go in the trash. It's also kinda fun, BIG bang.
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Can someone please share how the heck to get the yellow sockets out?!? I can not figure out how to remove them
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