[howmanyds]

I can't find any clues in the BEMM guide: how do I get my seat out to access the fuse panels and wiring under the seat?

 

[EddieZ]

I can't find any clues in the BEMM guide: how do I get my seat out to access the fuse panels and wiring under the seat?

Standard seat (don't know about power seat) -- Slide seat forward. Remove 2 Torx, one each side, that hold seat rail to the pedestal. Reach up under the seat cushion to unclip guide for the seatbelt warning cable. You may also have to remove battery box cover, and unclip seatbelt warning guide, there, as well.

Slide seat backward. Remove 2 more Torx. I don't think you have to remove the plastic corner caps on the rails. Maybe. Get behind seat, lift, and move it to sit behind the passenger seat.

Now, there are a few pages of instructions in the manual, about accessing the battery compartment, without actually removing the seat. Several of us have found that it simply does not work. Others, I guess, did get it to work. Also, the pics in the manual apply to dual battery config, which confuses those with single battery.

 

[howmanyds]

Thank you. I do have power seats so it's the extra wires that concern me. Maybe I'll find a quick disconnect?

 

[EddieZ]

Thank you. I do have power seats so it's the extra wires that concern me. Maybe I'll find a quick disconnect?

You've got me. More weight, and maybe more and/or different attachments. I can't even imagine how they get motors stuffed into what space they'd have to work with.

 

[cargovanconversion]

I can't find any clues in the BEMM guide: how do I get my seat out to access the fuse panels and wiring under the seat?

I have the same issue: wanted to remove the driver's side power seat to find out how to replace the battery and to upgrade the CCP (customer connection point) from 60A to 180A, including fuses.

Haven't found any literature on that either.

Van Williams

 

[asdrew]

I have the same issue: wanted to remove the driver's side power seat to find out how to replace the battery and to upgrade the CCP (customer connection point) from 60A to 180A, including fuses. Van Williams

Somewhere in here there is a thread that includes info on the CCP upgrade. The kit from Ford Parts is very reasonably priced and includes the fuses. I was going to do it for my wagon, but so far the one 60A point is more than enough for what I've done.

 

[rascorp]

Standard seat (don't know about power seat) -- Slide seat forward. Remove 2 Torx, one each side, that hold seat rail to the pedestal. Reach up under the seat cushion to unclip guide for the seatbelt warning cable. You may also have to remove battery box cover, and unclip seatbelt warning guide, there, as well.

Slide seat backward. Remove 2 more Torx. I don't think you have to remove the plastic corner caps on the rails. Maybe. Get behind seat, lift, and move it to sit behind the passenger seat.

Now, there are a few pages of instructions in the manual, about accessing the battery compartment, without actually removing the seat. Several of us have found that it simply does not work. Others, I guess, did get it to work. Also, the pics in the manual apply to dual battery config, which confuses those with single battery.

EddieZ: Last weekend I removed my front driver's seat. Your instructions are exactly what was needed to remove my seat, however I found them after my removal...I was unable to resolve my original purpose for the removal as I could not figure out how to add the two additional fuses which I purchased at my local Ford parts dealer. I did not have time to dig deeper into removal of batteries and or other fuse items... After going that far I decided I would not be needing two additional fused junctions. I have already installed the MRBF terminal post 150 amp Blue Sea fuse to one of the dual batteries. Next week I will be back into that location to add a Sterling 12v 60A dual starter battery charger to triple house battery bank in rear of vehicle.

 

[sosmercford]

Was told by a dealer that the front PASSENGER seat CANNOT be removed because of the electrical connections. I would think there would be quick disconnects on the harness for the seat. And, naturally, if it is a non-power seat the only harness I can think of might be for the airbag? If I can remove the passenger seat in a long wheelbase model I will have the room I need for my 14 ft. kayaks and paddleboards. Otherwise, I have to go with an EL model and that only comes with a HighRoof that I don't really want. They don't make it easy!

 

[EddieZ]

Was told by a dealer that the front PASSENGER seat CANNOT be removed because of the electrical connections. I would think there would be quick disconnects on the harness for the seat. And, naturally, if it is a non-power seat the only harness I can think of might be for the airbag? If I can remove the passenger seat in a long wheelbase model I will have the room I need for my 14 ft. kayaks and paddleboards. Otherwise, I have to go with an EL model and that only comes with a HighRoof that I don't really want. They don't make it easy!

SOME have something electrical under there, depending on model and options. Heat & air, and/or... something with the diesel? perhaps.

Mine had only the jack under the passenger seat. I have a 2015 cargo van, and no seat airbags to deal with.

I, too, have a 14 foot kayak to transport. In fact, I engineered a way to keep the seat in the van, while transporting a kayak. Check out my build, in the sig line, below.

EDIT - Before I bought my van, I was able to slide the seat forward, and fold back the fuzzy trim that covers the pedestal opening, and verified there was only a jack in there. And, BTW, the ones with other stuff down there, have the yellow jack strapped in plain view, near the right-rear inside corner.

 

[unclebob]

I remove my passenger seat about 70,000 miles ago and have had no problems.

There is a quick disconnect for the wiring harness attached to the seat.

I turned off the passenger side airbag switch in the glove compartment (for the dash mounted passenger airbag) but since I have the air bags built into the seats the airbag light on my dash is lit up. This light only indicates that one of my airbags (the one in the seat I removed) is not functional.

???

 

[orton]

I do not have seat airbags or powered seats. Passenger seat easily removed by removing the four Torix screws. No wiring.

I have designed a swivel seat for the passenger side so had it apart to check dimensions. Parts ordered so we will soon see how well it works.

 

[sosmercford]

Thanks for the info guys! Very helpful.

 

[cargovanconversion]

With regard to the power seat, you don't have to remove it to get to the fuse panel. Just slide it fully forward and it is far enough out of the way, to access the panel.

I just installed two extra fuses in the CCP and you can read about it in this thread: fordtransitusaforum

Or you can view the video and lots of photos here or download it as a PDF-file.

Van Williams

 

[Batman]

Power seats just have one large electrical connector, it contains the seat power and airbag connection. It is removed with a 7mm socket. And the four torx bolts and thats it. Like a 5 minute job unless you need to undo the seat belt then the side plastic has to come off.

 

[vttomf]

T40 Torx bolt holds the front seats. (I had to buy a few to find the right size)

 

[sylie]

I'm unsure of the use of the CCP. You said that it is to get more power from the alternator-so are you using this system to charge a separate coach battery while driving? Guess I'm a little confused because I've been reading about a battery isolator, charging your coach battery from shore/solar/alternator and I have too much info in my head to sort it all out.