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http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-ford-transit-recalled-because-doors-may-unlatch-stop-sale-order-issued.html

So frustrating. Is this going to affect passenger vans already ordered?! I put a call in to my dealership. He said he will call me back Monday or Tuesday. Ahhhh
 

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Yes, but if they are now stopping sales on ALL transits until the problem is fixed, wouldn't that delay wagon production since wagons aren't scheduled until December. I would think this would push everything back if they are having to adjust production for the cargo vans.
 

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Ford is recalling 1,319 Transit cargo vans from model year 2015 for a brake-fluid leak at the joint between the rear brake hose and brake caliper. Ford said it is also recalling 610 of the 2015 Transit cargo vans because the windowless sliding doors were assembled without epoxy reinforcement.

From here:
3 makers recalling thousands of vehicles | The Columbus Dispatch

Looks like 2015 is the year to buy?

Edit: It seems as though the Passenger vans are unaffected.

Edit 2: For the sliding door: The affected vehicles were built at the Kansas City Assembly Plant from March 12, 2014 through June 24, 2014.

For the brake problem: The affected vehicles were built at the Kansas City Assembly Plant from April 3, 2014 through May 27, 2014.

According to edmunds.com, the dealers will take care of fixing the recalls not the factory.
 

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Strike Four.

I'm starting to think that Ford is just too distracted right now to properly execute on the multiple roll outs this year. Obviously the F150 is the priority as their number one profit maker, but with the Transit, new Expedition, and F150 all launching this year, it seems Ford is not giving each vehicle proper focus. I hope Mullaly's pending departure isn't a distraction... It would be a shame to stub their toe and give back the progress they've made on quality over the last few years.
 

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......cut....... It would be a shame to stub their toe and give back the progress they've made on quality over the last few years.
I was under the assumption from various reports that Ford quality was actually suffering as of late. I did a Google search and this type of article seemed common.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20131104/RETAIL01/311049955/ford-quality-sinks-but-sales-soar

I can't figure out what is going on. Do buyers expect too much or are cars becoming so much more complex that there is too much room for design and manufacturing errors?
 

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I was under the assumption from various reports that Ford quality was actually suffering as of late. I did a Google search and this type of article seemed common.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20131104/RETAIL01/311049955/ford-quality-sinks-but-sales-soar

I can't figure out what is going on. Do buyers expect too much or are cars becoming so much more complex that there is too much room for design and manufacturing errors?
With the exception of Sync, Ford quality has been way up over the last several years which is reflected in the average price of vehicles sold vs. MsRP. Used prices are up too. Ford has become a more desirable brand. Assuming Sync is fixed with the switch to QNX from Microsoft, I am betting they will be topping many JD Powers surveys in a year or two.

That said, the Transit launch has been botched, any way you look at it. A year late to begin with, and you are still looking at 8 month production waits for passenger vans? That is ridiculous. Now add the recall and some questionable design decisions and you really can't objectively say the Transit has launched smoothly. It will ultimately sell well but this is a mess.
 

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Well actually they can't fill- there is a drain hole in the bottom. The problem is the element getting wet.
 

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And a poorly designed leaky cowl/hood/windshield interface with equally poorly designed drainage holes as well as water routing management system. The air filter box is not the only thing that gets unusually wet in the engine compartment.
 

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After looking at the design of the water channel that is supposed to
direct the water that drains from the windshield -
I now understand why everything in my engine compartment
is covered with water spots/mud -

the water channel system is a Total joke and would be laughable
if I did not own one of these vans-
Looked at some 2016 vans and nothing has changed -
Sad that I have to Rig things on my van with Aluminum Duct tape
to try and keep water from pouring into engine bay while sitting in my
driveway -

Next time it rains Im going to put a gopro cam under the hood to watch
the water flow -
 

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GROOVY2, I like your GoPro idea, please do it!

It would be very beneficial to see what's going on under there and also to show Ford...since they seem to be taking their sweet time fixing the problem!
 

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Just looked at mine again after several days sitting in the driveway with rain. Plastic bag I put over the air cleaner was very wet, the top pockets of the EB intake manifold were full of water and the foam in a plastic bag on the left side over the electronics had a hole in it so was full of water. Electronics were very wet.

Looks like I need to spend some time deciding on a solution since Ford is still merrily building a poorly designed product. Looks like the center section may be OK but each end will never work. Will see what I can come up with. Rather stop the water flow at the ends if I can.

Do wonder why they put a hood on the front of the van. Certainly was not to keep out the water.
 

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This is my little waterfall which goes directly on to the main ECU. And you can also see my solution to hold it reasonably dry.

Greetings from Munich, Germany
 

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lotuseater- Welcome to the site and thanks for posting the photo's. Did you use the tub mod for the air filter on the other side? I'm thinking of maybe doing some sort of sheet metal shield for the whole water problem or I'm going to start investing in a lot of funnels, lol.
 

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Lotuseater - the funnel is a good idea -
I posted a link to your post in airfilter nightmare section-

Seems like the drain system ford designed is totally inadequate-
Trough fills with water and pours into engine compartment everywhere -

Im going to replace the stock curved drain hose passenger side with one that
goes straight down thru the engine compartment - should drain somewhat faster -

on drivers side the only solution I can see so far is cutting a slot (holes) with
a soldering iron and installing some type of catch Funnel or bucket with at least
a 2 inch hose of tube so that normal rain does not overwhelm drainage -
 
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