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Passenger Van -> Irontent II Lift Bed with Zero Gravity Base

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Thanks for all the detailed information and discussion here! My wife and I are on the verge of pulling the trigger on the Progressive Automation legs and the Rize Home Freestyle full-size bed. After reading the user manual for the Freestyle bed, I noticed two things:
  1. The bed frame requires support around its perimeter only. Cross supports do not seem necessary for residential use. Maybe we don't need them in van use, either.
  2. There might be a chance that the bed can be powered directly from a DC source, eliminating the need to have an inverter turned on.
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I was trying to find clear measurements and didn't see any.
I have been trying to do the same. The dimensions on the Rize Home website are clearly wrong (queen: 61.40 x 41.75 x 7.8 in, 132 lb). I think those might be the dimensions of the shipping box, but they're clearly nowhere close to the nominal dimensions of a queen bed, 60 in x 80 in.

Today, I emailed and spoke on the phone with Louine Lewis from Rize Home (direct line: 440-399-1248). While she was extremely courteous and helpful, she did not provide much useful information. I tried pressing her about the dimensions, and she kept pointing me back to the website. She even checked the dimensions in "the system," and those for the queen matched those on the website. I asked for the dimensions of the full size frame because they are not provided on the website, and she gave me dimensions very close to the erroneous queen dimensions, 54.65 x 41.54 x 8.43 in, 130 lb.

Louine did clarify the differences between the standard Freestyle frame and the Freestyle 2.0 frame. The 2.0 has two new features, which are memory settings and the "wall hugger" feature. The latter is a new raise/lower mechanism that slides the bed toward the head of the bed as the head is raised, thereby keeping a constant distance between the headboard and the head of the mattress. The intention is to keep a nightstand next to the head of the bed within reach as the head of the bed is raised. The extra complexity of the mechanism increases the overall weight of the frame.

Finally, I asked about using a constant 9 VDC power source to raise/lower the bed instead of 110 VAC. She reached out to one of their technical support members, and she was told that a 29 VDC source is needed to power the frame. This seems somewhat consistent with the specifications in the manual.
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Could you guys help me understand why you went with the full size frame instead of the queen size frame? I assumed the narrower width of the full size frame was necessary to get the bed to fit between the D pillars. However, if I understand @Irontent's design correctly, the 1545 frame is 60 in wide and fits (barely) between the D pillars even with the plastic trim in place. Granted, I don't have access to our own van right now because it is stuck in the body shop, so my only way to make measurements is via the Ford CAD model. According to the CAD, the distance between the D pillars is 61.75 in. That measurement is neglecting any trim, clips, etc. that might be connected to the D pillars. It's merely the distance between the metal faces of each D pillar. It seems like the queen size Freestyle frame should fit between there. Am I overlooking something? Are there some other advantages to the standard size frame that I'm missing? Thanks in advance!
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I'm extremely happy with my design choices.
Thanks for the extremely detailed response!!! I need to pour over the dimensions that you mentioned to make sure that I understand your points. I really appreciate the help!
 
Thanks so much for the feedback, Tim! It's really good to know that it does not rely on center supports. Also, you make very good points about the Freestyle 2.0 being better for overhead clearance with cabinets. If you happen to get a chance, would you mind providing the dimensions of the bed frame as assembled? Just how tight is it between the D pillars when you slide it into the van through the rear doors?

Regarding the future of Rize, I think they are fairly solid. They have dozens of products, including several adjustable bed frames, that they sell through local retailers. I am guessing that the Freestyle and Freestyle 2.0 are two products that they decided to discontinue when Glideaway and Rize merged. Their online store has just a fraction of their total product lineup.

The newer adjustable bed frame designs on the Rize Home website seem to use a much narrower frame that supports an overhanging bed platform. I imagine the this design reduces the overall weight and allows for slight trimming of the bed platform (length and width). If the Freestyle frame is too wide to fit between the D pillars, I'm considering the Up adjustable frame instead. This particular model raises the head only, but I think that will be fine for our needs.

Thanks again!
 
@Irontent , we have pretty much hijacked your thread at this point. I hope we haven't annoyed you too much. It's ok to call us/me out if we have.
 
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Hey IronTent, sorry to hijack your thread again. Do you have any photos to share of the wiring on the back side of your Blue Sea panels inside the cabinet shown here? I’m trying to squeeze every last cubic inch out of our electrical cabinet, and I’m wondering just how much room needs to be left beside and behind those panels. Thanks!!!