[Brokecanadian]

Hi, I'm an expediter and am curious about the Transit diesel only. I've read thru quite a bit on the forum, and am wondering if the 3.2 would be a replacement for my sprinter 2.7...

Would not consider the ecoboost, the range of MPG reported would play havoc with my profitability..

Some numbers...got a low mileage 2005 sprinter long and tall and am getting an average since April of 22.5 MPG all speeds and stop and go + highway...just had a run carrying 3000 lbs at 23.5 MPG (it was accurate, had to fill once in the 10 hour drive and the return was 22.5 MPG I sped up after getting that weight off)

So what I need to know...

Highway MPG of 3.2 in long and tall from someone driving for MPG

Cargo floor length, width between wheel wells, rear door height, and payload capacity of SRW no duallies

It's between the Transit and a 2014 up 4 cylinder 2.1 sprinter. I know the sprinter ext has 15 feet+ Cargo length...i need weight capacity too, think the newer sprinters are less than 3000, I only get away with 3000 by tossing everything out of the back in my unfinished bare bones Cargo sprinter

Thanks in advance...seems like every owner in here's is getting different numbers and the Ford configurator confuses me, also I don't trust dry weight numbers

(Dont need to hear about sprinter problems, I do my own maintenance and have seen mechanics twice over 2 million miles of driving, forced into it)

 

[Brokecanadian]

Ok, I'm at home so I got the configurators working, so just confirm me please

Sprinter extended, 2.1 gives 2994 cargo at 8550 before DRW option

Transit extended gives 3560 cargo in the SRW 9500 GVW advantage TRANSIT

Both the silly super single sprinter and the 9990 drw sprinter put me technically under regulation, 10,000 lbs in USA and 9920 in Canada (4500 kg=9920) might as well move up a size in truck at that point

 

[Andre Jones]

3560 seems to come to mind, here's a chart that might make things easier?

Around page 17 is where the detail measurements are - https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2015/2015_Transit_v1-1.pdf

Quick copy/paste of some of the info you were looking for:

Cargo Width Between Wheelhouse
(SRW/DRW) [mm] 1392

H505 X Cargo Height Maximum [mm] 2069

H202 X X Rear Cargo Door Opening Height [mm] 1887

Here's the 2016 body builder's assembly guide - https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2016/2016_Transit_v1-0.pdf

No 2017 as of yet, that I know of.

 

[DrJean]

Here's your 2017 specs... be careful not to be reading wagon specs if you want VAN specs... often on same page.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transitcommercial/specifications/view-all/

 

[Brokecanadian]

Thanks for the links! Just got back from over 1700 miles in the sprinter...over 90 degrees in Georgia and about 45 in Michigan...its tempting too get a Transit just to have heat and ac again

I'll look over the specs...heard some good things about the diesel in the expediter world but they told me they're not going too measure it

 

[Brokecanadian]

Ok roughly 74" door by 54" wide, that would have been worth $3000 to me on one run...my sprinter is only 69" high, the older model

Gotta find someone that's scaled one with a full tank...

 

[Brokecanadian]

And 14.35 feet cargo floor length against the sprinter's 15+...weight capacity wins over length any day, usually you run out of that before you fill the van...thanks again, that up fitter guide has some more goodies in it and I haven't found it before

 

[orton]

As I recall the cargo bed length in my 144" sold 08 Sprinter was a couple inches shorter than the cargo bed length in the Transit.

Where the big difference is the fact that the Transit does not have a 170" wb like the Sprinter.

I would never go back to the current design Sprinter after owning both a Sprinter and a Transit.

 

[Brokecanadian]

As I recall the cargo bed length in my 144" sold 08 Sprinter was a couple inches shorter than the cargo bed length in the Transit.

Where the big difference is the fact that the Transit does not have a 170" wb like the Sprinter.

I would never go back to the current design Sprinter after owning both a Sprinter and a Transit.

Looking at the tall EL only, is it that short inside? I don't actually need the height unless the doors open all the way as well, but that's the way the EL comes, and I suppose I could put a fullsize lowering bed up there....

Why would YOU not go back? Mechanical?

 

[orton]

My length comment was comparing my 144" WB Sprinter to the 148" WB Transit. Not the extended Transit.

My four 27" wide bed platforms fold down from the van sides (two on each side) and sit on top of the table.

Sprinter tried to kill me or others by going into LHM. Happened just after I had been passing cars on a two lane road.

Also wanted to get rid of the diesel. Gas is better for my application.

Drive both. Sprinter is more like a truck and Transit is more like a car. Transit handles much better than the Sprinter. There are positives and negatives to both vehicles.

A bit more info:

http://www.ortontransit.info/testsprinter.php

 

[mogulman]

Have you really done a detailed cost analysis? Sure you get about 20-25% better highway MPGs. But city MPGs are usually around 10%. If you look at the added cost of diesel fuel, your mix of city vs. highway and engine cost diesel rarely pays for itself. You would have to drive over 30,000 miles a year and do mostly highway miles.

 

[Andre Jones]

I would think an expediter would easily eclipse 30k a year...maybe i'm wrong. I used to do 23-25k a year with a couple of housecalls a week within a 30 mile radius and a 40 mile commute.

 

[Brokecanadian]

Oh, the 100,000 to 200,000 miles a year probably throws all cost analysis out the window, not sure what to do with 300,000 miles in a gasser and 4 years of payments left

Just reread the story of the owner of A. Blair Enterprises, he had 47 sprinters, I think I'm cured of that silliness now, it's between the diesel promaster 3500 and the T350 diesel...yes I know which one would last me longer and is better built

I really liked the idea of a manumatic and the better mileage but side of the road flywheel change is not something I want to try

Still looking for a scaled weight for a long and tall, anyone?

 

[EddieZ]

And 14.35 feet cargo floor length against the sprinter's 15+...weight capacity wins over length any day, usually you run out of that before you fill the van...thanks again, that up fitter guide has some more goodies in it and I haven't found it before

I found Ford's cargo floor length spec for my LWB non-extended cargo van to be inaccurate -- overstated. Don't remember the numbers. May have been correct in other web pages & publications, from the online 2015 specs I had checked. Just, don't put full faith in that 14.35 feet, until you get some independent or personal confirmation.

 

[Brokecanadian]

Thanks...that's why I keep looking for the scaled weight, factory quotes dry weight

Time to hit some dealers with a tape measure. I did find out the Sprinter's opening is only 72" compared to ford's 74, don't know why they make it so hard to figure out what will fit in through the back door...and those measurements don't take into account the flooring or e track

 

[Andre Jones]

Not that it has much relevance to you, but I attempted to scale my LR LWB w/ 2 of 15 seats removed and the truckstop was so busy that I ended up just leaving.

 

[Andre Jones]

Found this in my searches for a 250 Extended Length High roof - -
"FYI I weighed mine when first got and with my 205 lbs and a full tank it came in at 5860..." - @Vince

 

[Brokecanadian]

Thank you that's promising...imagine my surprise when I scaled my empty E350 diesel at over 7500 lbs, 4 years and about 600,000 miles in...fortunately back then DOT wasn't interested in vans and it didn't seem to care, but by a million miles it drove like a slinky toy and I scrapped it (engine and tranny fine, never touched)

Expediting would only add a few hundred lb for hardware, insulation and some creature comforts, I'll pass on the 4000 lb loads, the cube van guys with "under 10,000" on the doors can have those