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Are the retail orders closed on the trail yet?
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No, we can still take a Retail Customer order but it may close at any point. The Transit Trail is the only gas model we can order and they still have open orders for the 'E' Transit.
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Thanks Ed, where should i start emailing?
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Hi all,
new to the forum. I’ve got a transit trail on order locally and have some general questions.
- my preview order is for a W2X 350 High Roof Cargo AWD with the Trail Package. Preview date in January but receipt shows 11/12/2022. Priority code A1! Anyone know when I can roughly expect to take delivery? I’m thinking the A1 is good news for me?
- Should I remove the power sliding door?
- is the $885 SYNC 4HD/NAV/IACC upgrade worth it?
- is the $1895 DESTINATION & DELIVERY fee avoidable?
- I removed the MAXXAIR ceeling fan option bc an Adventure Wagon outfitter told be they are pretty specific on where they want the fan, it’s also cheaper to do through AdWagon I think?!?! Does anyone have thoughts on this.
I went with carbonized grey so thank you to whoever posted that last link with the pics.
Thanks all!
TB
new to the forum. I’ve got a transit trail on order locally and have some general questions.
- my preview order is for a W2X 350 High Roof Cargo AWD with the Trail Package. Preview date in January but receipt shows 11/12/2022. Priority code A1! Anyone know when I can roughly expect to take delivery? I’m thinking the A1 is good news for me?
- Should I remove the power sliding door?
- is the $885 SYNC 4HD/NAV/IACC upgrade worth it?
- is the $1895 DESTINATION & DELIVERY fee avoidable?
- I removed the MAXXAIR ceeling fan option bc an Adventure Wagon outfitter told be they are pretty specific on where they want the fan, it’s also cheaper to do through AdWagon I think?!?! Does anyone have thoughts on this.
I went with carbonized grey so thank you to whoever posted that last link with the pics.
Thanks all!
TB
I would remove the Power Slider if I were you. It just isn’t available and won’t be for the foreseeable future so your priority code will be moot, van won’t get built if you that option on there. There's at least one aftermarket PSD available. I think the priority code just reflects that Ford wants to get this new model out there. I’ve read here that Trail production won’t begin till Ford adds the third shift at the KC factory in April. COVP orders placed before the September cutoff with priority code 19 like mine are currently getting selected for production (knock wood). Not a trail obv. Given all that though, without the PSD I think that priority code will be a good thing but not a guarantee.
I ordered Sync4 and ACC but NOT I-ACC. Only thing the "Intelligent" does different is read speed limit signs. I didn't want that and most here don't either.
The destination fee’s a Ford thing that’s automatically added. Don’t think there’s any way of avoiding it unless, hypothetically, you were to order from a KC dealer that has some sort of sweetheart transport arrangement with the factory, and with Ford. Even then, no guarantee they’d pass it on to you.
Where does your builder want the fan? I assume directly above the bed? That's where I plan on putting mine. I haven’t seen the proposed factory placement.
I ordered Sync4 and ACC but NOT I-ACC. Only thing the "Intelligent" does different is read speed limit signs. I didn't want that and most here don't either.
The destination fee’s a Ford thing that’s automatically added. Don’t think there’s any way of avoiding it unless, hypothetically, you were to order from a KC dealer that has some sort of sweetheart transport arrangement with the factory, and with Ford. Even then, no guarantee they’d pass it on to you.
Where does your builder want the fan? I assume directly above the bed? That's where I plan on putting mine. I haven’t seen the proposed factory placement.
On my order I skipped the power door bc I had heard it had issues in 22 and was causing build delays,while parked it draws down your battery, and typically electric openers can be annoying slow. I wish it just did the initial open and final closure to reduce the slamming that some need especially while on an incline.
I have the fan option selected but waiting to see details and cost. Hoping Ford engineered a better installation than typical wood reinforcement, questionable sealing that requires resealing. Test vehicles do not appear to use the self-leveling flashing of the aftermarket, so maybe a better gasketing system was developed. Fans generally have prescribed locations.
destination fee is industry wide to make an artificial lower msrp and is mandatory.
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It showed as $695 on my pre-view order.
Ouch, I suppose that could be what an upfitter would charge.
Any mention about control, remote or at fan?
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Rumor is Ford may end the Transit Trail orders on February 1st. If you are looking to order one, get your order built out, get a preview order, and pricing before Ford closes out orders. Then be sure you can get the COVP information to Ford with your signed preview order and copy of your driver's license. Your next chance to order a 2024 may by May 1st and arrival would be at the earliest would be October.
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Emailed you, but the preview build for anything but the wagons are not available online. Whats the process for setting up the order?
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It’s a MAXXAIR fan, and it seemed to be positioned towards the front of the van. All the information I had on it was from pictures on the Transit Trail brochure type website.
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What’s the COVP process now that I have my preview order from Ford. Should my dealer do this or do I need to?
Thank you for the help!
On Order 2023 Transit 350 Avalanche 148" Wheelbase with Medium Roof
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Yeah seems to be placed dead in the middle, so I didn't order one with mine because I want to build a solid partition to prevent motorcycles from joining me in the front seat in the event of a collision :x
I wish they'd give me a whole build sheet, so I can see the preview build.
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Based on what we thought might be the last day for Transit Trail orders, we downloaded another 14 orders for the Transit Trail model yesterday (1/31/23). ModVans has ordered quite a few for making a special upfit to go for this particular model.
I'm not in the market for a Trail but it looks like a great Van and I've been thinking about this Van and following this thread out of interest.
I think we can agree that the increased tire and terrain clearance is modest with the OE lift as well as aftermarket options. I haven't seen or heard anyone speculating about further lifting it, or combining two approaches of aftermarket lift. Anyone else seen or heard of this, or thought about it?
Consensus is that the Trail's lift system is based on the Quigly Q-lift which drops the subframe to maintain CV axle angles. If I'm getting this right this also maintains stock geometry on the Control arms and you could add the Van compass 2" kit to the stock lift for a total of lift 5- 5 1/2 inches? Right now the Sprinter has the edge in terms of off road clearance and tire clearance (not sure about performance) but this would likely blow the Sprinter out of the water for both.
Of course the Q-lift has its drawbacks, mainly pushing the axle angle issue up the line to the front driveshaft and not gaining front axle clearance. Hypothetically, I'd rather swap out CV axles than a driveshaft but it works well enough for Ford and you'd gain the axle clearance if you added the Van Compass lift. Interesting food for thought!
Would I do it to my Van? I'd have to research further but if no one had concrete reasons why it absolutely wouldn't work, I would probably try it. If it did work, it would be awesome!
MAybe this is a discussion for another forum.
I think we can agree that the increased tire and terrain clearance is modest with the OE lift as well as aftermarket options. I haven't seen or heard anyone speculating about further lifting it, or combining two approaches of aftermarket lift. Anyone else seen or heard of this, or thought about it?
Consensus is that the Trail's lift system is based on the Quigly Q-lift which drops the subframe to maintain CV axle angles. If I'm getting this right this also maintains stock geometry on the Control arms and you could add the Van compass 2" kit to the stock lift for a total of lift 5- 5 1/2 inches? Right now the Sprinter has the edge in terms of off road clearance and tire clearance (not sure about performance) but this would likely blow the Sprinter out of the water for both.
Of course the Q-lift has its drawbacks, mainly pushing the axle angle issue up the line to the front driveshaft and not gaining front axle clearance. Hypothetically, I'd rather swap out CV axles than a driveshaft but it works well enough for Ford and you'd gain the axle clearance if you added the Van Compass lift. Interesting food for thought!
Would I do it to my Van? I'd have to research further but if no one had concrete reasons why it absolutely wouldn't work, I would probably try it. If it did work, it would be awesome!
MAybe this is a discussion for another forum.
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Hmm, that is a good point. Van compass spacer and spring plus Q lift up front is an intriguing idea. Could more easily fit 265/75r16s that way, maybe even one size up from there with the wide offset wheels.
there definitely is a limit in the rear with how high you can go without problems on the rear driveshaft angle. When I did my VC lift in the rear, with shock relocation brackets, mini leaf spring pack, and 1/2” shackle extensions on an empty van - I had a loud droning sound from the rear until I added weight to the van. You’re probably limited to ~3-3.5” in the rear max
there definitely is a limit in the rear with how high you can go without problems on the rear driveshaft angle. When I did my VC lift in the rear, with shock relocation brackets, mini leaf spring pack, and 1/2” shackle extensions on an empty van - I had a loud droning sound from the rear until I added weight to the van. You’re probably limited to ~3-3.5” in the rear max
The q lift comes with struts that effectively have lift built in already.
The vc plus the q lift would result in cv wear and frequent “topping out” of the suspension.
I hadn't thought the rear would be a limiting factor at that amount of lift. I had thought about skipping the rear leaf spring pack or 2" block and just going with the 1/2" shackle at least initially on mine. But looks like you have to do at least 2" in the rear to do the lower shock mount relocate, or you'll be bottoming out your rear shocks all the time. So I'll just skip the 1/2" shackle extension at least initially and see how it goes with weight. Depending on your leaf pack and weight, the van could still sit level with a 5" front and 3" rear lift.
Might all be a moot point though based in Ntm's info.
Good to know, so the Q-lift drops both the driveshaft and the CV axle. Makes sense to split the difference between each component. I wish the Q-lift setup wasn't such a closely guarded secret. Seems like the Q-lift is a superior system but at much more expense. Both systems are still relatively new but I haven't heard of premature component failures with either of them.
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