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The setup for the AWD will be just like the demo model at the Indianapolis show and looks to be like a U-Joint. The 3.5L EcoBoost will be the same engine as in 2019 and only the regular aspirated 3.5L engine will have the port injection. They did not upgrade the 3.5L EcoBoost for port injection.
 

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...if the 2020 ecoboost 3.5 has port fuel injection to keep the valves clean?
The most likely way to tell from basic specs when the Transit gets the Gen2 3.5 EB will be when the compression ratio changes from 10.0 (as it is now) to 10.5 (like the basic Gen2 3.5 EB in the F150).

Since Ford introduced two new engine options for the 2020MY Transit, it's not surprising that the Gen1 3.5EB carried over unchanged.

But I'd be very surprised if the Transit doesn't get the Gen2 3.5 EB for the 2021MY. Higher compression helps fuel economy a little, although most Transits don't count toward CAFE because they're over 8,500 lb GVWR. But that's probably why they changed the base engine from the 3.7 to the 3.5 derived from the F150 3.3 (plus having greater commonality). I'd bet F150 gets a similar naturally-aspirated 3.5 base engine within the next year or so.

A hybrid Transit is also forthcoming (late this year in europe), but I doubt it will be available here soon, and even when it is, it probably won't be based upon the 3.5EB.
 

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Thanks!

An OEM electrically powered air conditioner compressor is a huge advantage for those who park overnight in hot humid conditions. Even if the stock runtime isn't all that long, a large-enough 'house' battery pack can extend it significantly (once the user voids the warranty by allowing the OEM pack to be recharged from the user-installed 'house' pack;)
 

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2020 MY Transit gets Gen 2 3.5 Ecoboost

The setup for the AWD will be just like the demo model at the Indianapolis show and looks to be like a U-Joint. The 3.5L EcoBoost will be the same engine as in 2019 and only the regular aspirated 3.5L engine will have the port injection. They did not upgrade the 3.5L EcoBoost for port injection.
Are you *SURE* about that?


The most likely way to tell from basic specs when the Transit gets the Gen2 3.5 EB will be when the compression ratio changes from 10.0 (as it is now) to 10.5 (like the basic Gen2 3.5 EB in the F150)....
...but it looks like there's another way, namely on page 51 of the "2019 NTEA CHASSIS UPDATE":



That picture *is* the Gen 2 3.5 ecoboost, because among other changes, "The cam drive system changed from a single primary chain to a stronger two primary chain system with separate chains driving each cylinder bank.... The cam chain drive sprocket on the crankshaft is a double gear arrangement to drive the two primary chains."
That photo clearly shows the Gen 2's dual camshaft drive chains.

Maybe whoever created that publication just unwittingly put a random photo of a Gen2 EB on that page, but further corroboration is "...the engine also features auto start/stop" (which was not available on 1st gen).

So that sure seems like confirmation that it won't be necessary to wait for the 2021MY to get the Gen 2 ecoboost in a Transit.
 

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So that sure seems like confirmation that it won't be necessary to wait for the 2021MY to get the Gen 2 ecoboost in a Transit.


Or it means that the IT guy at the third party web design company hired by Ford doesn't have any idea what twin cam means and simply grabbed the image because the file name was 35EB.JPG. Seriously, I wouldn't count on any of their marketing material being accurate.
 

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Or it means that the IT guy at the third party web design company hired by Ford doesn't have any idea what twin cam means and simply grabbed the image because the file name was 35EB.JPG. Seriously, I wouldn't count on any of their marketing material being accurate.
I was gonna say; FoMoCo digital info seems to be always lagging and inaccurate, as if they still had some Boomers running MSDOS doing the website and using dial-up modems. You really can't trust anything to be very accurate until it's actually on the lot and the website catches up with current info due to complaints.
 

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You two may well be right, as I mentioned:
Maybe whoever created that publication just unwittingly put a random photo of a Gen2 EB on that page, but further corroboration is "...the engine also features auto start/stop" (which was not available on 1st gen).
BUT...


Q: When did the F150 get auto-stop/start and the 10-speed trans.?
A: When it also got the Gen2 3.5 ecoboost.

Vans tend to get detuned versions of the same powertrains that were available first on pickups (GM follows this pattern too).
 

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You two may well be right, as I mentioned: BUT...


Q: When did the F150 get auto-stop/start and the 10-speed trans.?
A: When it also got the Gen2 3.5 ecoboost.

Vans tend to get detuned versions of the same powertrains that were available first on pickups (GM follows this pattern too).
2020 order guide says 10.0:1 compression ratio, not 10.5:1. But, the auto start stop was introduced on Gen2... so based on that I would bet it's Gen2 in 2020 Transit.
 

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If you go with what Motor Trend stated from the preview show in Indianapolis, they are stating NO changes to the 3.5L EcoBoost engine.

www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/transit/2020/2020-ford-transit-first-look-review/


I was at this same preview show and talking with the members of the Ford Transit Brand Group and the engine specialist for the Transit, she stated the 3.5L EcoBoost engine would not change for 2020. They may go with the Gen 2 engine in later year models and that depends on how they can work out production in the current engine plant.
 

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Thanks for clarifying.

I would think the compression ratio would have changed to 10.5 if 2020 was Gen 2, so maybe the references to the "updated" 3.5 EB refer only to other items, and maybe the auto stop/start didn't require Gen 2's internal changes.
 

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I sent a email to the lady over Transit power systems and should get a reply tomorrow.
Is there anyone you can ask as to why Ford isn't offering a K1Y body code with the EcoBoost? Is it a late availability thing or a "we aren't doing this anymore" thing?
 

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The 3.5L EcoBoost engine will not be offered on ANY of the 2020 SWB passenger vans. I think Ford felt the smaller size van did not need the extra power and when looking at the Nationwide Ford inventory for that model with the EcoBoost engine, only 34 are showing up so that tells you dealers are not even ordering that engine.

You still have a chance to order a 2019 model with that body style and engine combination. I made reference to it a few months back when I was told of this change for the 2020 model SWB passenger vans.

Ford dealers are mostly ordering the base engine on the Ford Transit and at Matt Ford the 3.5L EcoBoost engine is ordered about 95% of the time and ALL of the stock ordered units we get have this engine. It has to do with the special customers we get mostly from the Transit forum and are one of the few dealers who will order that engine if you want it.
 

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That seems silly. They've offered the EB engine in the SWB vans for years. Why would they stop? Some of us want all the power, but not an enormous van. I'll probably buy a used EB SWB van and wait and see if Ford changes their mind in the next couple years and offers the EB engine again.
 

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Swiveling driver and passenger seats

I sent a email to the lady over Transit power systems and should get a reply tomorrow.

CVM,

Looked at the Autotrader add, they state that the 2020 will have the option of swiveling driver and passenger seats, what have you heard and how much of a swivel ?
All the way around for a wheel chair transfer ?
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Semper Fi
 

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We just know Ford will be offering the swivel seats and do not know to what extent they travel. Matt Ford is ordering 3 2020 Transits for demo models with ALL of the available options for each one. The 3 models will be a MR 148" WB CrewVan, a HR AWD 148" WB cargo van, and a MR AWD 12 passenger van.
 

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Do you want to order AWD HD? We have not ordered a lot of that particular model in the past so getting one as a demo unit might be a hard selling unit. We will use the CrewVan for some developmental options like leather seating, rear floor mat behind the second row seating, and side wall panels that Penda has already told us to get a CrewVan to them for making various products.
 
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