[rabbitdiesel1]

I've read about ford 6.7 diesel problems. I've owned 2 sprinters (270,000 miles) not one single diesel engine problem. No limp home mode, egr or sensor problems, no turbo failures. No def troubles, nothing. If I buy a Transit next time will the 3.2 diesel have problems like the 6.7?

 

[orton]

Do I detect a troll?

I have one Sprinter with 54,000 miles that had to be towed at 10,000 miles due to a loose air intake hose clamp and at 20,000 miles when it tried to kill me and others when it went into limp home mode at an inappropriate time, Do not have DEF problems because 08 does not have DEF, Sprinter DEF problems are apparently a serious issue.

Strange that you would pick a topic title without referring to the 6,7 engine when that engine is not offered in the Transit. No negatives heard about 3.2 which is offered in the Transit.

If you want to minimize engine emission problems buy a gas engine. A gas engine is simpler than a current diesel by any manufacturer ( except possibly Mazda). Much less add on emission hardware and software.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

Ford builds the 6.7 so wondering if any of those problems could carry over to the 3.2. What goes wrong with the DEF system.

 

[carnut]

Do I detect a troll?...Strange that you would pick a topic title without referring to the 6,7 engine when that engine is not offered in the Transit. No negatives heard about 3.2 which is offered in the Transit...

No different than lumping both generations of sprinter engines together. They have nothing to do with each other but are produced by the same manufacturer. It's a legitimate concern. No negatives here in the US because no one has one yet. You'd be better off following UK forums.

 

[ted]

^ experience speaks, thanks for sharing that.

 

[VanMan]

I've read about ford 6.7 diesel problems. I've owned 2 sprinters (270,000 miles) not one single diesel engine problem. No limp home mode, egr or sensor problems, no turbo failures. No def troubles, nothing. If I buy a Transit next time will the 3.2 diesel have problems like the 6.7?

And what problems are you referring to? The 6.7 is a completely different design of engine, it is built in Mexico.
The 3.2 is on its 3rd revision, has been built for many years, and is built in South Africa.

 

[Sprinter_Owner]

And what problems are you referring to? The 6.7 is a completely different design of engine, it is built in Mexico.
The 3.2 is on its 3rd revision, has been built for many years, and is built in South Africa.

Exactly, it is an engine that has been in production 19 years, putting the Powerstroke on the plastic cover is not going to change a thing.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

I don't know of specific problems with the ford 6.7. I've heard some people say that ford has had some problems with the 6.7. A dealer told me that owners idle them to long and that causes a problem. You here so much about clean diesel problems, I wonder if I should even drive mine. The diesel engines have been trouble free in both my Sprinters, I wish I could say the same about the transmission and drive shaft.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

What caused you to go into limp home mode?

 

[orton]

EGR valve replaced under warranty @ 20,000 miles. The problem was not the failure but the programming of the LHM which can occur at any time. I had just completed passing cars on a two lane road with cars approaching from the other direction. After that I no longer trust the vehicle. I would rather have the engine trash itself than to cause me and others serious injury or death due to loss of power.

I will change to a gas engine to eliminate some of the emission stuff. MPG is not as important to me as reliability and service. I have other reasons to change to a gas engine in addition to the emission controls.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

EGR valve replaced under warranty @ 20,000 miles. The problem was not the failure but the programming of the LHM which can occur at any time. I had just completed passing cars on a two lane road with cars approaching from the other direction. After that I no longer trust the vehicle. I would rather have the engine trash itself than to cause me and others serious injury or death due to loss of power.

I will change to a gas engine to eliminate some of the emission stuff. MPG is not as important to me as reliability and service. I have other reasons to change to a gas engine in addition to the emission controls.

It sounds like your problems are Mercedes related. Other diesels would probably not have those particular problems.

 

[Longboard]

When I was initially planning my Sprinter purchase a gasoline option was available, primarily in California as a temporary means of emissions compliance. Virtually everyone in the forums advised against it.
Here I am seven years later and most folks are advising against the odd ball diesel option in the Transit.

 

[Brad]

Here I am seven years later and most folks are advising against the odd ball diesel option in the Transit.

But are those fears about the Ford diesel based on fact or FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt)? I think reasonable views for or against the diesel option would revolve aroung the extra cost of the engine, cost of fuel (more expensive where I live), known reliability (whatever that is) vs potentially better mileage and maintenance costs.

 

[orton]

We now know that any modern diesel engine has more emission hardware, sensors, systems and software than a gas engine. Could still be a logical choice for someone who puts a lot of miles on their van primarily at highway speeds. Diesel does not make monetary sense for someone who puts on 10,000 miles/year or does mostly city driving. For most a gas engine is a better choice. Since you bought your Sprinter the diesels now have one more system to inject DEF and diesel is no longer 30 cents less per gallon. If someone does the math the savings just are not there for the diesel choice for most folks.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

We now know that any modern diesel engine has more emission hardware, sensors, systems and software than a gas engine. Could still be a logical choice for someone who puts a lot of miles on their van primarily at highway speeds. Diesel does not make monetary sense for someone who puts on 10,000 miles/year or does mostly city driving. For most a gas engine is a better choice. Since you bought your Sprinter the diesels now have one more system to inject DEF and diesel is no longer 30 cents less per gallon. If someone does the math the savings just are not there for the diesel choice for most folks.

I'm going to have to go back to school. My math says my 15 mpg avg. View is less costly than a gas V10 or V8 that avg. 8 or 9 mpg.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

Green Car Congress: GM to introduce more diesels in US; Cruze ?first of many?

 

[orton]

I'm going to have to go back to school. My math says my 15 mpg avg. View is less costly than a gas V10 or V8 that avg. 8 or 9 mpg.

Please include the fuel filter changes, DEF fluid and more quarts of more expensive oil. What about the repair costs due to more complicated systems. Do not forget the interest you could get on the money saved on the lower capitol cost of a gas vehicle.

But you are correct when you compare your View to a V10 or V8 at 8 or 9 mpg. Try comparing it to a newer gas engine that gets 12-13 mpg. Transit 3.7 gas rated at 15 to 19 with empty van. Would expect the 12-13 in a View. Back to school to use the pencil sharpener.

 

[Chance]

I'm going to have to go back to school. My math says my 15 mpg avg. View is less costly than a gas V10 or V8 that avg. 8 or 9 mpg.

The "View" is much smaller than typical Class Cs that only average 8 or 9 MPG. For similar sized RVs I'd estimate around 30% fuel-consumption penalty.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

Ford is not going to use the 3.7 in the heavier dual rear wheel chassis cab. I think that chassis is only available with the 3.2 diesel. You are correct Orton, if you can get a gas engine to do the same job at close to the same mileage, then the gas engine is less costly but they haven't come up with that engine yet, at least not for a motorhome the size of a View. For you, the 3.7 gas in the standard van is the simple way to go and the up front cost will be less. If the clean diesels have continued problems then the fuel savings is not worth it. I hope you enjoy trouble free traveling with your gas transit.

 

[rabbitdiesel1]

My 06 View Avg. 17.3 mpg. It had 178,000 mi. when I sold it. I used a little over 10,000 gal. of fuel. My only other choice at that time was a V10 ford that would of used a little over 20,000 gal of gas. 10,000 gal. x 3.50 = 35,000$. Take away 3000$ for extra diesel price = 32,000$ in fuel savings. I know that oil changes and fuel filters didn't cost 32,000$. I had no engine repairs only maintenance. Winnebago now offers the View with the 2.1 diesel. They tested it and claim 18 mpg in hills, 20 mpg on flat. Performance is better than you'd think. Even a gas engine at 12 or 13 mpg would not be cost effective compared to the 2.1. Oil changes for diesel are now 15000 miles, That means more savings for the diesel. Some people think I'm stupid for running diesels, I don't see how.