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Hi All!

We bought a 2019 Ford Transit Passenger Van today. My wife loves the mid-roof, 15 seats, and backup camera but what she doesn't like is the basic radio.
The radio does have the 4.2" inch screen for the factory backup camera and simple display information but what she really needs is the phone/handsfree/Bluetooth feature.

My concerns are the following:
1. I don't want to lose any factory features.
2. I don't want to end up with multiple components. (IE: Aftermarket Camera in addition to the factory camera that would end up disabled/unplugged)

Went to Crutchfield and it looks like they sell the required items:

1. Metra 99-5835G Dash Kit - Dash kit allows you to install a new single-DIN (2" tall) or double-DIN (4" tall) receiver in your vehicle's dash panel, while maintaining all factory controls.

2. Axxess ASWC-1 Steering Wheel Control Adapter - allows you to connect your vehicle's steering wheel controls to almost any brand of aftermarket stereo, including Alpine, Clarion, JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer, Sony, and more. (Note: your new stereo must have a 3.5mm steering wheel control or wired remote control input.)
Installation is a straightforward process. You usually have to connect a few wires to your factory wiring. In most cases, the adapter automatically recognizes the vehicle it's been connected to. If not, you can manually program the adapter for your vehicle by following a step-by-step process with LED confirmation. Once connected, the adapter's memory retains its programming even if battery power is interrupted. A USB slot allows you keep the ASWC-1 current when updates become available. Warranty: 1 year.

3. Axxess XSVI-5524-NAV Wiring Interface - lets you connect your new high-powered car stereo to the factory wiring plug in your 2011 or later Ford vehicle. This adapter provides you the electrical, ground, and speaker connections you need, including a 12-volt accessory power lead for your new stereo. It also retains the Retained Accessory Power (RAP) and offers the reverse, parking brake, and Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) outputs needed for installing a new navigation receiver.
The XSVI-5524-NAV interface also includes a pre-wired harness for the Axxess ASWC-1 interface (sold separately), in case you'd like to integrate your factory steering wheel audio controls with your new car stereo.

4. Metra 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter - The adapter lets you connect an aftermarket receiver to the factory antenna cable. It offers a male Motorola plug on one end and a female OEM antenna jack on the other.

5. Axxess AX-FDSYNC-SWC Steering Wheel Control Harness - harness allows you to connect the steering wheel audio controls in select 2015-up Ford Transit vehicles (if equipped) to a new car stereo without having to splice into your factory wiring. This cable also lets you keep your factory-installed backup camera when you install an aftermarket car stereo in these vehicles. Once installed, you'll see images from your rear-view camera on your new receiver's screen.

What am I missing? What can you recommend?

HERE IS THE COMPLETE SHOPPING LIST

TOOLS

  1. Heat Shrink Butt Connectors - I own a heat gun already ($16.99)
  2. Crimping Tool - I have a crimp tool but it's old and rusty so it was time to upgrade ($17.99)
PARTS & RADIO
  1. USB 3.0 Flush Mount Ports - I wanted to add charger/direct connect ports for universal connection even though the radio offerers wireless Android and Apple CarPlay functionality ($10.80)
  2. Metra 40 EU 10 Antenna Adapter - I needed this to convert the vans antenna to cable to the new radio ($11.88)
  3. Axxess AZ-FDSYNC-SWC Metra - I needed this to I can use the factory camera on the new radio's display. ($9.85)
  4. Metra 99-5832G Audio - I needed this so the van dash could hold the new 2 din radio. ($45.95)
  5. Pioneer AVH-W4500NEX 2 Din - This was a splurge but wanted to be sure the most wireless connections possible and offer room to expand the system later. ($539.99)
  6. Metra Axxess ASWC-1 Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface - I purchased this just in case it's needed for the build. I'll send back if it's not needed. My Van does not have the steering wheel controls but this part may still be required. ($44.99)
  7. Metra XSVI-5524-NAV - I purchased this just in case it ends up being required to get rid of the 4.2" screen, might return if not needed. ($49.99)
TOTAL MINUS RADIO & TOOLS: $173.46 ($123.47 if I ended up not needed the XSVI-5524-NAV)
GRAND TOTAL UPGRADE: $748.43


Thanks again!
Brad
 

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I just did mine I also had the Sync Radio with the 4.2" screen. I replaced it with a cheap Android Unit (Double DIN | Android 9.0 | Hexa Core | 4GB RAM & 64GB ROM | TQ709IPL)

I used the module and wire harness from Axxess to keep the steering wheel control and the factory camera with the dynamic lines (XSVI-5524-NAV + AX-FDSYNC-SWC + ASWC-1

I decided to go with the factory airbag bezel, so I got the Metra 99-5832 2Din kit instead of the 99-5835
 

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Thanks for the response Boboxx! What bezel do you recommend for this type of configuration? I don't mind moving to all black instead of silver.

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The Metra 99-5832 and 99-5835 are both the gun metal silver front bezel and the black top like factory. The photo of the 99-5832 is wrong, if you look at the description they say is silver. Both kit are essetiacly the same except 99-5835 comes with the airbag light. In the unit you have the air bag light is part of the radio buttons and can't be transferred over to the new face bezel.
 

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I will add that the instalation is really easy but things are very tight in there, there is not a lot of space to play with. You need to still keep the 4.2" display and hide it in the dash to keep some of the CAN Bus factory funtionality. I ended up placing mine directly underneath the stereo and then having the 2 small Axxess box flat behind the radio.

Depending on what you choose for radio, you may be able to go with the Maestro RR. It's a single box and I don't think you need to keep the 4.2" screen in the installation. This would replace theXSVI-5524-NAV + AX-FDSYNC-SWC + ASWC-1 Axxess boxes and cables.

In both case you will keep the backup camera, swc and bluetooth connection.

I opted to go with the Android Radio as I could get GPS maps with offline funtion. I'm from Canada and we travel to the US a few times a year where I have no cell phone/coverage.
 

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Looks nice! @asdrew !
@Boboxx, thanks for the feedback. I wasn't aware that I needed to keep the 4.2" screen hidden in the dash. I went shopping yesterday and came up with the following list which ended up being quite a bit cheaper than Crutchfield and would arrive quicker too. I am trying to get it all done before my wife heads out with the kids on a 700 mile road trip in 2 weeks from now.

TOOLS
  1. Heat Shrink Butt Connectors - I own a heat gun already
  2. Crimping Tool - I have a crimp tool but it's old and rusty so it was time to upgrade
PARTS & RADIO
  1. USB 3.0 Flush Mount Ports - I wanted to add charger/direct connect ports for universal connection even though the radio offerers wireless Android and Apple CarPlay functionality
  2. Metra 40 EU 10 Antenna Adapter - I needed this to convert the vans antenna to cable to the new radio.
  3. Axxess AZ-FDSYNC-SWC Metra - I needed this to I can use the factory camera on the new radio's display.
  4. Metra 99-5832G Audio - I needed this so the van dash could hold the new 2 din radio.
  5. Pioneer AVH-W4500NEX 2 Din - This was a splurge but wanted to be sure the most wireless connections possible and offer room to expand the system later.
  6. Metra Axxess ASWC-1 Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface - I purchased this just in case it's needed for the build. I'll send back if it's not needed. My Van does not have the steering wheel controls but this part may still be required.
I think this will do everything I need it to do, most importantly, keep the factory camera and allow hands-free calling and offer some room for growth soon.

Additionally, my wife joined a Facebook Mom group which several folks owning the transit highly recommended brighter reverse lights. I purchased these:

 

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If you don't have SWC, I would fire off a email to Mettra/Axxess to make sure you don't need the XSVI-5524-NAV. I have a feeling you still need this.

Here is what mi installation looks like, I'm still missing the clips as I want to make sure everything is ok:
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Looks great! How did you get the Ford Logo on screen? Also, my van doesn't have the Passenger AirBag light, is there any way to add it easily?

I purchased the part below. I will send it back if not needed for the build.

 

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The aswc-1 is for steering wheel control, the XSVI-5524-NAV is the factory stereo harness and the rest of the van integration. For the airbag bezel, get the Metra 99-5832 + the ford part #BK-2Z10A936-B (15$ CAN) or the Metra 99-5835 kit

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The Ford logo/animation is part of the Xtrons Head Unit, I just selected it :)
 

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Ok I ordered the Metra XSVI-5524-NAV. Amazon says it's not compatible with my van; however, Crutchfield recommends it. I'd rather have too many parts here than not enough. :p
 

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Parts are starting to arrive! Turns out my wife is leaving a little earlier than first planned. We'll see if I can get all the parts in and installed before she leaves on Thursday 5/21. If not, we'll have to wait a week or so for her to return before I can start the project.

Original Dash showing basic radio and 4.2" screen.
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Original 4.2" screen showing the radio status, temperature, clock, etc functionality.
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Original 4.2" screen showing backup camera functionality.
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Metra 99-5832G DIN/DDIN Dash Kit Instructions (Page 1) for 2019 Ford Transit Passenger 350
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Metra 99-5832G DIN/DDIN Dash Kit Instructions (Page 2) for 2019 Ford Transit Passenger 350
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WHATS IN THE BOX Metra 99-5832G DIN/DDIN Dash Kit for 2019 Ford Transit Passenger 350
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I briefly looked at all the parts and compared them with the originals that remain in the vehicle. Colors, shapes, quality all appear to match up. I think it will be hard to tell that it was not done at the factory by the project is complete! In the storage container (bottom left of picture/black), there are the screws and clips needed to fasten the radio to the rails and clip in the kit plastics. I read the instructions which also seem to be complete and self-explanatory. There is one part of the sub-dash that needs to be "cut" out. I assume it's all abs plastic and I can just use a hack saw blade to get through it. Excited to get started but still have to wait on more ports. More to come soon....
 

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Hey guys, I'm about to buy used and join your illustrious club and really want to do this upgrade. Can you give me a ballpark total cost using mid-range item options? I'd like to flatten the curve of my sticker shock. Big young family means we're gonna have it for a long time and this one seems worth the investment.
 

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You should be able to do this for $300-400. I ended up going with a higher-end radio. You can spend $100 or $1000 on the radio.

TOTAL MINUS RADIO & TOOLS: $173.46 ($123.47 if I end up not needing the XSVI-5524-NAV)
GRAND TOTAL UPGRADE: $748.43 (with Radio and Tool Upgrades)
 

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Two questions.
How long do these Android head units take to boot up? I haven't been watching these lately, but people complained on early versions that they took 30 seconds or longer to boot after starting the vehicle. This would be problematic for backup cameras. OEM camera starts almost instantly (although I've had a few times in my f150 that required a brief few second wait).
What is the RMS wattage the head units puts out to each speaker channel. I'm assuming four channels, but I couldn't find any info on wattage or channels.
 

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The Pioneer head unit that I purchased, Pioneer AVH-W4500NEX 2 Din, claims to have a >10 second boot time and 50W's per channel. I'll time it and then report back once I have it installed and working. My 2010 F150 Lariat takes about the same amount of time with its factory navigation radio.
 

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The new radio is installed and working great. It took a little longer than expected and completed in about 8 hours from prep to clean up. I took my time and made sure everything was perfect, including running the hands-free microphone up by the driver map light/rearview mirror. The instructions were a bit confusing as in not all the wire colors from the harnesses to the radio wires matched up but other than that it was relatively straight forward if you've installed a radio before. The handsfree mic wire was a bit short so I had to splice in some extra length and I did have to rig up a way to hold the microphone in place. There isn't a lot of room behind or under the radio so I am kind of am dreading pulling the radio back out to add wires when/if I expand the system. I am still not sure why the system requires the 4.2" factory screen to be plugged in for the aftermarket to power on? This seems very strange to me. Also, I wasn't impressed with the metra dash kit clips and ended up using the factory clips. I pulled the metra dash kit lid off and dropped 3-4 clips down in the radio area, they wouldn't stay clipped to the plastic lid. Additionally, if you solder, remember to use rosin core solder. It hit me 15 minutes of struggling to solder the wires that I was not using rosin core solder, rookie move! The rosin core solder will adhere quickly and easily to any type of wire.

Hindsight, here is what I would order if I had to do it again:

TOOLS
  1. DO NOT BUY THIS - Heat Shrink Butt Connectors - Instead, solder every connection and shrink wrap them. The connectors weren't very reliable and the smaller gauge wires connecting to the larger gauge wires would pull out fairly easily. I lost quite a bit of time undoing the butt connectors and soldering/shrink wrapping it but it was worth every minute!
  2. DO NOT BUY THIS - Crimping Tool - It's nice to have but not necessary if you solder and shrink wrap.
PARTS & RADIO
  1. BUY THIS! USB 3.0 Flush Mount Ports - I wanted to add charger/direct connect ports for universal connection even though the radio offerers wireless Android and Apple CarPlay functionality
  2. BUY THIS! Metra 40 EU 10 Antenna Adapter - I needed this to convert the vans antenna to cable to the new radio.
  3. BUY THIS! Axxess AZ-FDSYNC-SWC Metra - I needed this to I can use the factory camera on the new radio's display.
  4. BUY THIS! Metra 99-5832G Audio - I needed this so the van dash could hold the new 2 din radio.
  5. BUY THIS! I love this radio, so many features and a massive amount of room for growth! Pioneer AVH-W4500NEX 2 Din - This was a splurge but wanted to be sure the most wireless connections possible and offer room to expand the system later.
  6. DO NOT BUY THIS. I Ended up not needing this since I didn't have steering wheel controls. Ill return for a refund. Metra Axxess ASWC-1 Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface - I purchased this just in case it's needed for the build. I'll send back if it's not needed. My Van does not have the steering wheel controls but this part may still be required.
FACTORY RADIO REMOVAL
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SAWING OUT CROSS BEAM TO MAKE ROOM FOR DDIN. *SCARY/PERMANENT
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FINAL PRODUCT. *the plastic sits flush, I took this picture before I seated it evenly,
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Let me know if you have any questions I'll be happy to offer any insight or advise as needed, Overall, I am super happy with how it turned out.
 

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I will add that the instalation is really easy but things are very tight in there, there is not a lot of space to play with. You need to still keep the 4.2" display and hide it in the dash to keep some of the CAN Bus factory funtionality. I ended up placing mine directly underneath the stereo and then having the 2 small Axxess box flat behind the radio.

Depending on what you choose for radio, you may be able to go with the Maestro RR. It's a single box and I don't think you need to keep the 4.2" screen in the installation. This would replace theXSVI-5524-NAV + AX-FDSYNC-SWC + ASWC-1 Axxess boxes and cables.

In both case you will keep the backup camera, swc and bluetooth connection.

I opted to go with the Android Radio as I could get GPS maps with offline funtion. I'm from Canada and we travel to the US a few times a year where I have no cell phone/coverage.
@Boboxx - Regarding your CAN bus comment - I just did an install very similar to this with one of the new midrange DMH pioneers and used a maestro for CAN bus integration and stereo control. It appears the ford CAN bus info is very limited. Only provides RPMs, MPGs, Braking info and a few very minor things. 2/4 screens are entirely greyed on the PIoneer screens that’s display CAN bus info. Using the Maestro harness, I completely removed the old backup camera screen and your comment made me wonder if I had not removed that screen and tucked it away and instead used the harness I might have more CAN bus info available. Can you or anyone else confirm what they get out of CAN bus or what difference leaving the original screen makes? Thanks in advance! Great forum, great folks here.


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Did you end up leaving the factory 4.2” screen in there somewhere? If so how did that wiring work in conjunction with your wiring harness for the backup camera? They both source out of the same 12 prong plug right?
 

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here is my Incoming Crutchfield Order.

I just have the basic system. so my backup camera is in my mirror. even though I plan to have a solid partition I'll keep the mirror back up camera, its just natural for me to Look at rearview and glance at side mirrors.

My question being do I want to buy another camera say License plate camera and just wire it to the Stereo unit so that I can view it any time I want? I also went and ahead and bought the Component speakers because well the A pillar is coming off anyways to run the mic wire.

My other confusion being not knowing what to expect from the 6.75 speakers. I may eventually add 6x9 boxes at the base of my Partion wall behind my seats. I think properly boxes 6x9's can give me the thump I want without needing to add amps etc.





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