[belloinsella]

We've been looking all over the country for a wagon with a checklist of stuff that we want and have found the exact vehicle that fits our desired specs, except color. It's white.

2016 with a deep price discount...MR Wagon, ecoboost, limited slip, tow package, upfitters, dual batteries, inverter, 12 passenger.

White w/ pewter cloth. At least the wheel covers can be removed and we can have black rims and install some A/T tires, but we really wanted silver or magnetic. Suck it up and go for it or hold our breath to find another one?


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[sschefer]

We've been looking all over the country for a wagon with a checklist of stuff that we want and have found the exact vehicle that fits our desired specs, except color. It's white.

2016 with a deep price discount...MR Wagon, ecoboost, limited slip, tow package, upfitters, dual batteries, inverter, 12 passenger.

White w/ pewter cloth. At least the wheel covers can be removed and we can have black rims and install some A/T tires, but we really wanted silver or magnetic. Suck it up and go for it or hold our breath to find another one?


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Most all of the dealer stock is going to be white. Mine is a white cargo but at some point I'll add some graphics via a wrap just to dress it up. White does reflect the heat well and it also is nice about not showing the dirt which I really like. My F150 is Blue Jeans and I have to wash it at least every two weeks or it looks really bad. My van hasn't been washed since I bought it at the end of August and it still looks great.

 

[belloinsella]

Most all of the dealer stock is going to be white. Mine is a white cargo but at some point I'll add some graphics via a wrap just to dress it up. White does reflect the heat well and it also is nice about not showing the dirt which I really like. My F150 is Blue Jeans and I have to wash it at least every two weeks or it looks really bad. My van hasn't been washed since I bought it at the end of August and it still looks great.

Yeah, I don't mind white. My wife likes the magnetic. There's a magnetic one at that same dealer but it doesn't have privacy glass, dual batteries, upfitters or the power inverter.

 

[keweenawbee]

You won't be alone.

 

[CrewVanMan]

Most of the Ford dealers are still looking at the Commercial end of the business and nothing for the regular family consumer. Might as well order what you want as most of the forum members looking for a color other than white had to order one.

 

[Damaskinos_of_Athens]

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Just recently they had to idle the factory for a week because inventory was getting too large.

You would think that instead they might have tried building some more variety than basic white and a couple options.

Pickups do not all come in white and they sell fine.

Unless they have a hard time selling nonwhite vans it makes no sense.
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[EddieZ]

Yeah, I don't mind white. My wife likes the magnetic. There's a magnetic one at that same dealer but it doesn't have privacy glass, dual batteries, upfitters or the power inverter.

Privacy glass -- some say it's not private enough.


Inverter -- minimal capability; add one of your own with more capacity, for low bucks.


Upfitter switches -- maybe


Dual batteries -- the best feature of the 4, especially because you get the high output alternator; I'd have to admit that the dual batteries may be worthwhile for a wagon, since you're less likely to add your own house battery system. In a camper van with house battery, the dual OEM is not so important.

 

[DrJean]

Look at white this way, you can add any color design swirls on it you want and make it "yours"... or not and fit right in with the hundreds of other work vans on the road.

 

[breeze]

Most of the Ford dealers are still looking at the Commercial end of the business and nothing for the regular family consumer. Might as well order what you want as most of the forum members looking for a color other than white had to order one.

Although paint is not the most important thing, it is very important and one that you see every day you get in and out of it. Too bad you cannot get the triple metallic pearl paint jobs like on the Ford Flex

But the 3.5l and towing package details are priceless and a bargain. As well, you won't find those options on the dealer lot. As much of a grind the custom van wait is, it is really the only way and more economical when you consider the world class options you can get. The wait time is probably required for most to study Ortin's build and others for complicated guidance. I'd rather learn from other expert's mistakes since it's much cheaper that way

 

[asdrew]

I didn't want to look like another plain white rental van, so held out for silver (but really wanted magnetic) and am very glad I did.

We also did not like the light grey seats which show dirt so easily and held out for charcoal cloth which looks so much nicer.

 

[CrewVanMan]

The Ford Transit plant only builds what the dealers order, so the white Transits are what is ordered. There are a few dealer who keep other colors in stock; at least they order them as stock orders and they sell pretty quick. One is in UT. My friend who has the 3 Ford dealerships in GA, NC, and TN has been keeping 37+ used Transits on ALL 3 lots. He tries to keep all body styles and as many color selections as show up at the Ford closed auctions.

Looking at the Transit vans, he is currently showing 4 Magnetic exterior and 2 Black ones. Of the 10 wagons showing, there are 3 Black and 1 Silver. He sells the Magnetic and Blue ones as fast as they get on his lot.

 

[belloinsella]

The Ford Transit plant only builds what the dealers order, so the white Transits are what is ordered. There are a few dealer who keep other colors in stock; at least they order them as stock orders and they sell pretty quick. One is in UT. My friend who has the 3 Ford dealerships in GA, NC, and TN has been keeping 37+ used Transits on ALL 3 lots. He tries to keep all body styles and as many color selections as show up at the Ford closed auctions.

Looking at the Transit vans, he is currently showing 4 Magnetic exterior and 2 Black ones. Of the 10 wagons showing, there are 3 Black and 1 Silver. He sells the Magnetic and Blue ones as fast as they get on his lot.

Thanks. Which dealership?

 

[belloinsella]

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But the 3.5l and towing package details are priceless and a bargain. As well, you won't find those options on the dealer lot. As much of a grind the custom van wait is, it is really the only way and more economical when you consider the world class options you can get. The wait time is probably required for most to study Ortin's build and others for complicated guidance. I'd rather learn from other expert's mistakes since it's much cheaper that way

Custom's are more economical? You mean because you're only paying for the options that you choose?

 

[CrewVanMan]

Jacky Jones Ford dealerships, www.jackyjones.net

 

[breeze]

Custom's are more economical? You mean because you're only paying for the options that you choose?

Whether you get free options in packages you want, or yes just get what you want. Many options can be done better and as cheap by 3rd party vendors for what you want. Ford is not a custom van builder: they make good trucks.

Things like the towing/transmission package and the paint you want are many times over cheaper than 3rd party vendors. Sometimes Ford options are not made for everyone, and cost a lot to build around them (i.e. - center consoles.)

Every van I've seen on a dealer lot so far is white and has a 3.7 l (except for extended vans w/ 3.5 l.) I will carefully go through the options and see if CrewVanMan can find one at a deep discount first. Then I will price one out as I want, and go from there. However, there is zero chance of getting a 3.5 l in anything except a goodyear blimp extended body style. Colors and towing packages are another thing in options I want to get right off. I may be wrong, but usually towing packages and TALL body styles don't come together with commercial vans or stock oem packages (they don't care if employees stoop, unless it is high repetition like UPS.)

A cargo van standard w/ just one slide door would work, but I can be flexible depending on windows and doors. I'm not real smart, but I have enough education to realize who is smart; and Ortin's build would be my infrastructure workings with only cosmetic or structures changed. There are lots of smart people here, but I just happen to like his spelled out train of thought from everything I've read so far (it's always easy to improve, but not when starting from scratch.) And if you change ANYTHING from OEM, you better do a lot of research first on how it effects all other systems involved (it's very complex and time consuming beyond asking surveys on the web sites). He has done that with 2 different tall long vans so far.

Therefore, my approximate priorities are: tall, long, 3.5l, tow package on transmission, yellow, and whatever else Ortin has mapped out which does not conflict with a motorcycle garage in the right rear. I try to look at all the posts I can, but Ortin is very systemic and custom vans are very complex in supporting systems, material handling, and man/machine ergonomic interfaces.

So the only thing I want from Ford is the engineered mechanical drive train options and paint options for economy. I'm not concerned with many options that just inflate the cost, and think I can find something as near cheap but a lot better in technology and closer to what I want (anything electronics or interior structure wise.) imo.

 

[smokster]

get a car wrap, find a high end group, they do amazing metallic wraps now days

 

[Andre Jones]

get a car wrap, find a high end group, they do amazing metallic wraps now days

Up in my area a lot of the shops want 3k+ to wrap, and 1k to plastidip because of how large a 148" wheelbase vehicle is...

Honestly I didn't want white either, but I've come to love it after plastidipping the door moulding and part of the bumper white.

 

[smokster]

I just wraped the hood black

 

[belloinsella]

A black wrap or spray liner on the rocker panels would be cool too


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[keweenawbee]

get a car wrap, find a high end group, they do amazing metallic wraps now days

More pictures of that Smokster?