Enterprise Rentals, Transit and Promaster

Darn. Nearest location to me is 200 miles away. And they only list the Nissan NV as a 'maybe'.

Airedrifter said:

I saw this at lunch.

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Thanks. I believe they were going to be getting in low roof 15-passenger Wagons also, as VanMan reported in November:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/61066-post1.html

but the Enterprise site does not show any Wagons that I can find, either in the car rental section, or in the cargo van area.

Saw a couple of medium roof cargo vans all painted up as U-Haul vans headed toward Santa Rosa Ca. on flat bed truck last Tuesday.

They have had low roof lwb wagons and cargo Transits since nov-2014 in my area, they also have low roof pro-master cargos also (in my area) (Enteprise) as shown in the photo
May rent a pro-master just because I "bash" them so much, so I can say "yes, they are a total piece of SH*T)
owners of pro-masters are now reporting water in the interior and with salt on the roads, it wount be long before they are rusting like the sprinters they replaced

VanMan said:

They have had low roof lwb wagons and cargo Transits since nov-2014 in my area, they also have low roof pro-master cargos also (in my area) (Enteprise) as shown in the photo
May rent a pro-master just because I "bash" them so much, so I can say "yes, they are a total piece of SH*T)
owners of pro-masters are now reporting water in the interior and with salt on the roads, it wount be long before they are rusting like the sprinters they replaced

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We have had a lot of rain in Northern Ca. and I have spent a lot of time inside of cargo vans at the dealer. Guess what: the Transits leak water through the fasteners that hold on the lower plastic body panel on the sides. Ford copied the Sprinter with the same results.

Dang Orton, that is not good to hear.

>>> Guess what: the Transits leak water through the fasteners that hold on the lower plastic body panel on the sides. Ford copied the Sprinter with the same results.


Geeeez... That's really disheartening. Surely they must have performed tests, at *least* at the development/prototyping stage that looks for that. I know the last Chevy I bought was subjected to a severe water intrusion test after assembly to check for leaks.

Lets just hope that the sheet metal was properly protected so that the moisture won't make our Transits look like Sprinters do after only a few years. My worst corrosion on the '08 Sprinter was just under those panels.......

No water in those Kansas City salt caverns...

I wonder if it is worth putting a bead of silicone over the top edge of the molding?

Ouch.

Ford said they're using a new process to produce more durable paint. Guess we'll see how it hold up. :|

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...ith-industry-first-ford-paint-technology.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ow1DfiebA

Unfortunately, they're apparently only using that process on the white-painted models. And they still need to do something about leaks, period.

orton said:

Saw a couple of medium roof cargo vans all painted up as U-Haul vans headed toward Santa Rosa Ca. on flat bed truck last Tuesday.

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Medium roofs as U-Hauls?

That's pretty cool. Were they MWB or LWB?

The water leaks I was referring to was the clearance lamps on the roof which leak on to the headliner, then to the dome light, lower part of the windshield, wheel well seams, rain gutter into the back doors.......... rocker panels..........

VanMan said:

The water leaks I was referring to was the clearance lamps on the roof which leak on to the headliner, then to the dome light, lower part of the windshield, wheel well seams, rain gutter into the back doors.......... rocker panels..........

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In ProMasters, right?

PeterR said:

In ProMasters, right?

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Yes, the pro-master is the leaker

The redesign for the 2015 ducato was to address the windshield cowl leaks, don't know if it was caried over to the mexican built promaster

VanMan said:

The water leaks I was referring to was the clearance lamps on the roof which leak on to the headliner, then to the dome light, lower part of the windshield, wheel well seams, rain gutter into the back doors.......... rocker panels..........

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I still don't get why the ProMasters need those ugly clearance lamps that can leak when SRW Transits that are just as wide get away without them. Ducatos look much cleaner without the lights, not that any van is great looking anyway. I just don't like those lights because they stand out -- like the afterthought they are.

Rico said:

Medium roofs as U-Hauls?

That's pretty cool. Were they MWB or LWB?

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Two on other side of freeway going opposite direction on flatbed trailer. Either medium or high roof and 148" WB.

I have yet to see a 130" WB Transit anywhere.

VanMan said:

They have had low roof lwb wagons and cargo Transits since nov-2014 in my area, they also have low roof pro-master cargos also (in my area) (Enteprise) as shown in the photo
May rent a pro-master just because I "bash" them so much, so I can say "yes, they are a total piece of SH*T)
owners of pro-masters are now reporting water in the interior and with salt on the roads, it wount be long before they are rusting like the sprinters they replaced

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Care to elaborate why you bash them? I'm honestly interested in your opinion, particularly since you haven't driven one.

I'm going to look at renting one myself, although I expect our evaluations based on extended test drive may differ considerably. As objective as we may both be, it's hard to overcome preconceptions. Basically if you think it's sh-t that's what you'll likely find. And the opposite is also true.

VanMan said:

Yes, the pro-master is the leaker

The redesign for the 2015 ducato was to address the windshield cowl leaks, don't know if it was caried over to the mexican built promaster

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The Transit van with water in it was at the local dealer. It was a high roof 148" WB cargo van. Water was in the lower body on right side between the end of the sliding door and the right rear wheel well. About 1/2" deep. The plastic stripe molding is held on by plastic fasteners pushed into holes. Sprinters have the same problem so some have put sealant on the fasteners/holes on the inside and some put the sealant on fastener outside before snapping on the plastic molding.