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I have installed tweeters in top of the door panels tonight. Pictures show locations of screws and removal is pretty straight forward.
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A small flatblade screwdriver is what I use to pry panels loose. I carry it in my pocket everyday for 20 years and have worn out 4 of them so far. . I use the Stanley yellow one.



This panel (screw cover) is in the door handles. Pops out from the rear and upward. This-for some reason - requires a t20 torx.





Pocket inside door. I use mine to hold markers and the pop outs I'm working on in this post.





Inside the grab pocket. These are 9/32 or I think 8mm



Don't forget bottom of the door. No covers on these.



Near lock at top/rear :




Red reflector. It also pops out with screwdriver. Same 9/32 hex as all the rest.





Screw cover under door pocket. Easy to miss and you can't feel it. It's hard to remove the door panel with this screw in but it's possible. Easier to just take the screw out. This one is ridiculous t25 torx but the t20 you used earlier will work.





Photo of speaker and door. The black rectangular piece is the door hamdle cable release. Pull on the Square collar on the back of it and it tlts out of the housing to release the cable from the door.

The switch plugs must also be removed. A little fandangling is necessary because you have to hold the door panel up and close to the door while pushing little tabs to pull the plugs out. The passenger door is harder because it's smaller. I remove the whole black window up/down switch housing from the door by pushing the tab at the rear inward and it just pops up and out allowing you to turn around the switch in order to see the push-tab.



Closeup of handle cable retention housing.




Drilled a hole where tweeter will go. I used 1" angle mount tweeters. I don't think larger would fit. Be sure to measure before drilling with door closed because if not you'll break off the mount when you shut it.





Stripped tape and insulation and wrapped and soldered speaker wire to the factory terminals.



Taped then wire tied the tape. Tape will not stay wrapped inside hot panels. This is the good 3M stuff and I always wire tie my tape.



All clean and tidy :



Photo from driver's seat view :



Photo of passenger door from driver's seat:



This install was done for a few reasons:

Tweeters brighten music and produce higher frequencies which tend to travel in straighter lines than mid and lower frequencies. Angle mounts on the doors point the tweeter directly at driver and passenger ears so you hear it very clearly. It's amazing! You can test the difference by blocking it with your hand and go back and forth.

This location is out of the way. You won't hit it with your hand (especially in the Transit's long doors) and it won't snag anything entering /exiting the van.

It's much better than A-pillars mounting. They don't point at you and you have to run wires from door and back through jam to dash and up to A-pillars. There's also an airbag to worry about.

This install took about 2 hours. I could do it again in 45 minutes as this was the first time removing the panels in my van.

I think you can buy these poly dome tweeters for 10 bucks on amazon. I already had them. Silk-dome and other exotic materials will be wasted on the higher noise floor of the van and automotive environment. These are very bright sounding and "crispy". Good for older ears and younger ones alike.

Hope yall enjoy.
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I have installed tweeters in top of the door panels tonight. Pictures show locations of screws and removal is pretty straight forward.
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Hope yall enjoy.
I'm in the process of removing my door panels and stopped to come review what I had earlier seen posted by you. Now I'm also wanting to know about the tweeter install. I bought the same speakers described in the yellow bird thread but also have a crossover with tweeter to install.
With your install did you not have a crossover to deal with or what? Should I just take a parallel circuit from the large speakers with the cross-over in between?

In the process of exposing as much as I can to sound insulate. Already a few more broken pieces of plastic than I was hoping for. You and KLP awesome for the help you've been. Documenting at the same time discovering is heroic.
Joe from GA thank you so much! Did you disconnect the pillar tweeters or leave them in the mix? Thanx
Another question, I think I found the tweeter question answered in another thread. I've removed all the screws identified by you and KLP but the panel isn't a bit looser feeling yet.

What is the big step between removing screws and getting panel to come loose?

Have already broken enough plastic so I'm hesitant about just prying until something gives.
I wish I had taken a pic of the door card off but I don't think I did. There are two or three locating studs then about five or six push in clips around the perimeter of your door. Pull on the lower door pocket sharply, you will hear a sickening crunch and the panel will become slightly more loose. Repeat this all around then the skin lifts off over the door lock.

If you visit my thread you can see the holes where the fasteners sit. You have got to pry with some force to get them out. Do it once and it makes sense. There is also one that holds the panel down, clip that last to release. The wiring is a little tricky too, drivers side is easier. Study my door pics and you can see what I did.

I am not opposed to a phone consult, PM me if you like.
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I'm in the process of removing my door panels and stopped to come review what I had earlier seen posted by you. Now I'm also wanting to know about the tweeter install. I bought the same speakers described in the yellow bird thread but also have a crossover with tweeter to install.
With your install did you not have a crossover to deal with or what? Should I just take a parallel circuit from the large speakers with the cross-over in between?

In the process of exposing as much as I can to sound insulate. Already a few more broken pieces of plastic than I was hoping for. You and KLP awesome for the help you've been. Documenting at the same time discovering is heroic.
The tweeters I used have built in crossovers. It's just a capacitor. No choke or coil.

Yes, you can just wire the crossover from the speaker wire that's in the door.
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Joe from GA thank you so much! Did you disconnect the pillar tweeters or leave them in the mix? Thanx
I don't have pillar tweeters. Just the base radio. Either way you can't get the same sound from tweeters that don't point at your ears. I would have added these anyway.
I wish I had taken a pic of the door card off but I don't think I did. There are two or three locating studs then about five or six push in clips around the perimeter of your door. Pull on the lower door pocket sharply, you will hear a sickening crunch and the panel will become slightly more loose. Repeat this all around then the skin lifts off over the door lock.
Thanks for your help. Just as you said, sickening crunch but much less so knowing I was following footsteps.

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behind the speaker discovered there is the female half of a connector. Pretty certain nothing was plugged into it before panel came off and speaker removed. No males halves seem to be in reach. What is it?

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No idea but it is special!

Mine had nothing there but inner door skin. These are the mysteries that people who buy not build there vehicles never discover! Plug something in and see what happens?

You have got a lot of water in there, any idea how it got there? I had a little there on my van but could not find a way in - my best guess is around the side trim.

I left all the drip runs clear but my thinsulate is gonna be getting wet if your door is any indication.
No idea but it is special!

Mine had nothing there but inner door skin. These are the mysteries that people who buy not build there vehicles never discover! Plug something in and see what happens?

You have got a lot of water in there, any idea how it got there? I had a little there on my van but could not find a way in - my best guess is around the side trim.

I left all the drip runs clear but my thinsulate is gonna be getting wet if your door is any indication.
Wet because I had the door open for a while when I was distracted by another problem that came up. Van had a lot of water everywhere outside because of snow melting when it warmed up last night followed by heavy rain. All you see came from dripping above while exposed. Sadly I have no covered workspace to work in. It has been below freezing weather until today. Adds to the fun of it all :(
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behind the speaker discovered there is the female half of a connector. Pretty certain nothing was plugged into it before panel came off and speaker removed. No males halves seem to be in reach. What is it?
I wouldn't fiddle with it too much until you confirm that it isn't the side impact sensor for the air bag system.
That's a good guess. My van has the base vinyl seats so no built in airbags. Buffy does yours have seat airbags?
That's a good guess. My van has the base vinyl seats so no built in airbags. Buffy does yours have seat airbags?

That I couldn't say. They weren't identified as a feature of 10-pt leather seats.

Just discovered another mystery. Thick wiring harness thru floor board to compartment under driver's seat. Two sets of females, quite large, all appearing to end at nothing.

Trying to find out now is if anyone has stripped the driver area down far enough to expose metal floor. Starting to think I need to be talked off the ledge. Can't expose the far reaches of the floor matt without loosening dash it appears. Where did you stop with sound insulation?

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You are talking to the wrong person to be talked off the ledge lol. I stopped short of removing the dash but removed the seats and kick plates on both sides. This allowed me to flip up the floor on both sides for access.

Revisit my thread for details, its all there!
You are talking to the wrong person to be talked off the ledge lol. I stopped short of removing the dash but removed the seats and kick plates on both sides. This allowed me to flip up the floor on both sides for access.

Revisit my thread for details, its all there!
I've practically lived on your thread at times but I'm left with unanswered questions.

I'll post over there, starting to feel weasily about hijacking the tweeter thread.
Those wiring harnesses are part of the optional upfitter wiring package. Check the BEMM for more info.

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Trying to find out now is if anyone has stripped the driver area down far enough to expose metal floor. Starting to think I need to be talked off the ledge. Can't expose the far reaches of the floor matt without loosening dash it appears. Where did you stop with sound insulation?
bmet removed most of his floor, just to give you some ideas (pictures) http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/ford-transit-general-discussion/37161-there-s-water-my.html
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Once again thanks for the help Michael. What a horror story. I'm coming off the ledge, I'll sound insulate what I can and not go rabid on the matter.

On other matters I was getting ready to fabricate a mount using black ABS to achieve what Manga suggested as a good way to mount tweeters. Had already cut some short pieces when I finally withdrew the cross-overs from the styrofoam block they were packaged. Lo and behold under them I discovered Hertze includes angled mounts for the purpose. The included booklet depicts mounting them just as he advised. Aim the one on the driver side at the passenger and vice versa.
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