Customer Connection Point on driver seat
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Stop work order!Thanks Orton , so its like a plastic housing with 2 bolts , so just connect a wire to one of them and one to ground?![]()
That does not look like it is set up for electrical connections to these eyes.
orton, didn't I post for you some obscure Ford document about the connection points at the driver's seat a month or two ago? I will look for it.
[Edit -- 6:15 EST] -- Here it is from your DIY thread -- I don't think this answers Njhw's question, but for what it's worth, here is that old post:
The three 60 amp terminals(C1,C2,C3) on the back side of the pedastal are each fused. You can pick one if your loads are under 60 amps. Or, I will use 3 cables to a terminal block to power my 1000 watt inverter. From terminal block to a Class T 150 amp fuse and then to a battery switch so I can isolate the circuit. Then ground the inverter somewhere close to the battery ground. The other choice is to go directly to the stud that is provided on the battery post of the second battery. Since I do not expect to use any more 12 volt power from the Transit, I have decided I will use the 3 terminals. They look like terminals to me and the BEMM describes them as such. "Customer connection points" C1,C2 and C3 with F12,F13 and F14 fuses.
The posted picture only shows one terminal. Mine has 3.
Maybe someone here can confirm or refute what I have said.
The Transit does not have a traditional D+ engine run terminal. What they provide is a switched ground located under the driver seat . It is pin # 3 in the C33-E connector inside on hand brake side of the seat pedestal.
The BEMM publication shows 7 spare circuits that use mini fuses in the Auxiliary fuse panel that is mounted on the sloped back wall of the pedestal. It is not clear where the terminals are located but I expect to find them on the panel.
The posted picture only shows one terminal. Mine has 3.
Maybe someone here can confirm or refute what I have said.
The Transit does not have a traditional D+ engine run terminal. What they provide is a switched ground located under the driver seat . It is pin # 3 in the C33-E connector inside on hand brake side of the seat pedestal.
The BEMM publication shows 7 spare circuits that use mini fuses in the Auxiliary fuse panel that is mounted on the sloped back wall of the pedestal. It is not clear where the terminals are located but I expect to find them on the panel.
I think you and orton are talking about the same location. Can you take another photo of that dark plastic item, from further away, so that all 3 connection points are in the photo? If possible, maybe get a shot looking down into those empty areas. Also a small ruler in the shot for scale would help. I am guessing from the BEMM illustrations linked below that the overall length of the plastic piece is 8-12" +/-, and that your close-up shot makes it look bigger than it actually is?
IMO, the bolts/nuts we see hold the plastic unit down, and the empty square-ish female openings may be where the actual connections are. What is at the bottom of those empty areas, the actual connection locations?
Here is the link for what orton just described. On p. 123 of 178 of this PDF, Section 4.17.14 Customer Connection Points, with various diagrams including orton's C1, C2, And C3 connection points:
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2015/2015_Transit_BEMM_v1-0.pdf
Are we on the same page about this location?
Thanks, I expect I will be needing to use these same connection points in a couple of months.
Edit 7:47 EST by zooming in on the BEMM illustrations, it does appear that the bolts and nuts are the connection points for a battery type connector?
The terminal block is about 5" long and has 3 terminals in the middle and two mounting bolts at the ends. The block is notched on the back side to allow the cables to enter. Block is mounted at the back of the drivers pedestal on the door side.
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Orton did you ordered the auxiliary package with the upfitters switches? plus if you have 2 batteries you get the 3x60 amps and only 1x 60 amp with one battery.
I did buy the upfitter switches with the two batteries. That must be the explanation. I did read that the one battery vehicle can be upgraded to the two batteries.
I remember reading about these post terminals in one of the manuals that I got from this site. PeterR would probably remember it better.
I was curious at the time to see how the up fitter switches worked. It showed a connection point having 3 terminals and they were fused.
To work thru the switch it means that the main power would have to work thru a relay at that terminal point. So that block may be the fuse and relay in one.
I to would like to figure it out as I will be putting a 3000 watt inverter in the cargo area and it's great to have a termination spot right behind the seat or close to it.
I orders the dual batteries but not the up fitter switches as my understanding is the inverter should only work when the vehicle is running.
Who is PeterR?
Like the man who went to his doctor and said, "Doc, I've been having terrible problems with my memory."
Doc: "When did this begin?"
Patient: "When did WHAT begin?"
PS -- Thanks Desi for the hat tip. Unfortunately, if I -- DO -- remember some bit of information, I often can't remember where I found it! Dave may chuckle at this . . . ?
Are you planning on powering the 3000 watt inverter from the Transit 12 volt system? If so, I do not think that will work. I will power a 1000 watt inverter from the three 60 amp connectors at back of driver's seat.
I'll be doing the same Orton, at least that is my plan. I think all the parts for the switches are there just not the switches them selfs. As far as i understand you would come off the batteries to a fuse block then to inverter control section. If the posts we are talking about is already fused that's great, if they are controlled by a relay also even better. Unless im completely comfortable with a self installation i would have it done at my upfitter company.
But hey that's why we are all here to sort this stuff out.
And kudos to PeterR for being on top of many posts i tend to read all of his and Crewvanman as they seem to have a good handle on many things. Its all here to find just gotta click and read.
( sorry PeterR, i never intend to put people on the spot, it's just your a machine! )
Found this in the technical section under engins.
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it has a ton of info on dimensions and specs. I found the "no drill zones" part especially interesting.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...5/maintoc.html
Click on "transit body and equipment mounting manual" and "transit".
JP
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If this is where I found the wiring of the switches or not it makes no difference, it's a must have book anyway.
Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it has a ton of info on dimensions and specs. I found the "no drill zones" part especially interesting.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...5/maintoc.html
Click on "transit body and equipment mounting manual" and "transit".
JP
Posted by JP4
If this is where I found the wiring of the switches or not it makes no difference, it's a must have book anyway.
Transit BEMM direct link:
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2015/2015_Transit_BEMM_v1-0.pdf
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2015/2015_Transit_BEMM_v1-0.pdf
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Ok - just chased this same thing- I have a diesel with 2 batteries and only 1 "customer connection point".
The earlier statement that single battery trucks get one terminal and dual battery trucks get all 3 is apparently incorrect.
So has anyone actually ordered the kit to add the other 2? Spec'd as part no- BK2Z-14S411-A ?
I ask because looking it up it is under $10 and find that very hard to believe it would contain all that was needed- the 2 extra studs and wiring and even the 60A fuses.
Added info- ok I ordered the CCP "kit" will be here in a couple of days- the dealer I ordered it from did say they had never sold one and was actually a little surprised it would take a few days to get- apparently most stuff comes overnight.
The earlier statement that single battery trucks get one terminal and dual battery trucks get all 3 is apparently incorrect.
So has anyone actually ordered the kit to add the other 2? Spec'd as part no- BK2Z-14S411-A ?
I ask because looking it up it is under $10 and find that very hard to believe it would contain all that was needed- the 2 extra studs and wiring and even the 60A fuses.
Added info- ok I ordered the CCP "kit" will be here in a couple of days- the dealer I ordered it from did say they had never sold one and was actually a little surprised it would take a few days to get- apparently most stuff comes overnight.
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