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Is there someone that has connected a Webasto or Espar type of gasoline heater to the Transit's auxiliary fuel port located on top of the fuel tank.

Is that a DIY project or should you have that professionally done and are there any manufacturers guidelines for that?

Any experiences?

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Is there someone that has connected a Webasto or Espar type of gasoline heater to the Transit's auxiliary fuel port located on top of the fuel tank.

Is that a DIY project or should you have that professionally done and are there any manufacturers guidelines for that?

Any experiences?

Van Williams.
Are these rhetorical questions?

Are you familiar with the Darwin Awards?

Mixing gasoline and DIY seems like a recipe for a DA in my personal opinion.

Your mileage may vary . . .

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Are these rhetorical questions?

Are you familiar with the Darwin Awards?

Mixing gasoline and DIY seems like a recipe for a DA in my personal opinion.

Your mileage may vary . . .

:s
Only if the DIYer was born with two left hands.
 

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Search for the BEMM. It shows what needs to be done. I read through it and I would do it without any fears, but I am a mechanic by trade and experience.

The BEMM is a guide for up fitters when modifying the vans.
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't be afraid to do it either, but I'm an ex-mechanic as well. The big question is whether Ford has the Aux fuel tap part available to order yet. I haven't searched for it recently.
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Yeah. These up fitter parts are slow to reach the supply chain it seems. And its tough for the parts folks to find them.
 

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Search for the BEMM. It shows what needs to be done. I read through it and I would do it without any fears, but I am a mechanic by trade and experience.

The BEMM is a guide for up fitters when modifying the vans.
Yeah, I wouldn't be afraid to do it either, but I'm an ex-mechanic as well. The big question is whether Ford has the Aux fuel tap part available to order yet. I haven't searched for it recently.
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Should have looked at the BEMM first. Still the work is fairly simple, but ordering a part, removing the tank -> is likely a quick thing at the dealership anyway. Thanks.

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Pages 45-46 illustrate the complexity of the task, in removing the tank etc.:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2015/2015_Transit_BEMM_v1-0.pdf



Then there are possible issues like:

-- Running gasoline line to new heater safely with protection from under-chassis road debris and other flying objects

-- mounting new heater with same protection, plus 12 volt and control wiring if any

-- piercing floor of van for hot air supply duct, insulating same, etc.

-- heater has exhaust to deal with?

-- ensuring that all work will last for a few years with no increased risks over time due to systems degradation

-- all without affecting the Transit's Ford warranty.

Seems like a stretch even for experienced mechanics and risk-takers, again in my personal opinion.

Your mileage may vary . . .
 

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Then there are possible issues like:

-- Running gasoline line to new heater safely with protection from under-chassis road debris and other flying objects
-- mounting new heater with same protection, plus 12 volt and control wiring if any
-- piercing floor of van for hot air supply duct, insulating same, etc.
-- heater has exhaust to deal with?
-- ensuring that all work will last for a few years with no increased risks over time due to systems degradation
-- all without affecting the Transit's Ford warranty.

Seems like a stretch even for experienced mechanics and risk-takers, again in my personal opinion.

Your mileage may vary . . .
One certainly should not do this type of work if you don't know your own limits, yet I've seen worse jobs done by so-called experienced professionals.

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One certainly should not do this type of work if you don't know your own limits, yet I've seen worse jobs done by so-called experienced professionals.

Van Williams
If you have a modicum of common sense this isn't a big deal. Don't let fear-mongers stop you from doing this. It ain't rocket surgery; all it takes is common sense and a plan.
 

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If you have a modicum of common sense this isn't a big deal. Don't let fear-mongers stop you from doing this. It ain't rocket surgery; all it takes is common sense and a plan.
I agree completely and if I can avoid the repair shop... As soon as I get to it I'll reevaluate it.

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I agree completely and if I can avoid the repair shop... As soon as I get to it I'll reevaluate it.

Van Williams
Good for you. I don't know your experience, but it seems that there are some people here that think that the only people that can do anything right is a specialist and everyone else is such an idiot that they will screw up using the turn signals.
 

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Certainly not mechanically inclined, but have a healthy dose of common sense. And simply said, we're just talking about connecting a hose/tubing between two points; I'm not disassembling a whole engine.

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Does the gas tank need to be dropped to access the auxiliary port?
 

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Does the gas tank need to be dropped to access the auxiliary port?
The Ford Transit "Body and Equipment Mounting Manual" says:

NOTE: To fit the auxiliary fuel line, the fuel tank will need to be lowered, see following process: NOTE: Ensure that a suitable fuel shut-off is fitted in any unique system.
To lower fuel tank:
• Drain tank.
• Remove filler pipe from tank.
• Remove bolts securing the three tank straps.
• Lower the fuel tank to gain access to the top, see Figure E185264 for fitting auxiliary fuel line.

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The Ford Transit "Body and Equipment Mounting Manual" says:

NOTE: To fit the auxiliary fuel line, the fuel tank will need to be lowered, see following process: NOTE: Ensure that a suitable fuel shut-off is fitted in any unique system.
To lower fuel tank:
• Drain tank.
• Remove filler pipe from tank.
• Remove bolts securing the three tank straps.
• Lower the fuel tank to gain access to the top, see Figure E185264 for fitting auxiliary fuel line.

Van Williams
OMG. You better call in an engineer to help you do that. :laugh:

BTW, if you have even a cheap transmission jack or a jack with a wide platform, just run the tank low. No need to drain it completely. I have dropped the tank on ours down when making modifications to it. I needed access to one end so I put the jack under one end and removed the two straps on that end. I then lowered the jack to gain the access I needed. Since it was the end away from the filler neck I didn't unhook those hoses, I just watched carefully as I lowered it to be sure that I didn't damage them.
 

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Thanks CVC. Originally I was looking at getting a Chevrolet 6.0, cutaway with a 14' Unicell CW body. I was thinking about an Espar D-4. There was room along the outside frame for a separate fuel tank. With the Transit I thinking a gas Espar is the way to go. Definitely no more Big Buddy propane for me.
 

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FYI I just came across this SVE (QVM?) for a part needed for the auxiliary fuel port work:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/Q-228.pdf

If you go up into the URL and change the number near the end by one digit, you can see other SVE's, but I can't find a master list of them (although I thought I had a bookmark for such a beast). TBD

Edit -- here is the master list of QVM Bulletins:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/qvmp.html
Thanks. I just ordered the connected for the aux fuel port. Internet search turned up this thread :)
 

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I agree with others- the so called "professional" often isn't. My observation is many passionate enthusiasts perform much better workmanship than many professionals for who it is "just a job". Of course their are both types of people who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a vehicle with tools in their hands...


Now here is a question- is the fuel pickup in the aux gasoline port shorter than the regular pickup? It is common practice in motorhomes sharing one tank to have the aux pickup shorter so someone doesn't run the tank too low to start the engine.

Oddly the diesel aux fuel port comes with the pickup "straw" but the gasoline tank has one installed already.
I'm going to order the diesel kit next time I order parts just to see, will need it anyway if I put in a diesel fired heater and it is only $15.
 
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