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No, the only way to make the mount work from the seat is to relocate the floor mounting bracket below the position where the seat leg would fit directly under it.
 

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Is this single-row seat configuration possible in a '21 Passenger Van - MR, SRW, 147"WB ?
I'd like to minimize any "leftover"seats (no room to store them) thnx, M

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That configuration doesn't exist in the 2020 ordering guide, however you can order the Passenger Van with all the rear seats removed but the attachment points present. The rebated value wasn't much for removing four leather seats ($340) making it an 8 seat van, but I didn't need the extras.

Those single seats show up in the Classifieds here regularly with people gutting rental vans, and your easiest option would likely be to get the Passenger Van with all the seats removed and piece together the ones you want. You might get lucky and find them all from a single new van, but given how long it takes to get a a van ordered and delivered, you'd have more than enough time to find them one at a time.


Is this single-row seat configuration possible in a '21 Passenger Van - MR, SRW, 147"WB ?
I'd like to minimize any "leftover"seats (no room to store them) thnx, M

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But do notice those rear single seats have different designations ("F", "Q", "Y") in the ordering guide, so you might need to be very specific with a seller if they are for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th row.

If you only need room for 2 more in the rear, did you consider the "D" seat pictured for the 14 seat configuration in the second row? My plan for my 8 passenger van is to remove the "K" seat and move the "D" forward.

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The 8 seat configuration gives you the minimum number of seats in the LWB model and you can switch the 3 passenger out and move up the 2 passenger seat in its place. When I worked with Ford in 2018 to offer the 'delete' seat packages, they were not willing to go with different specified seating in the passenger van. What you see in the diagrams above was what they decided to offer for the 2019 and one of the best features I asked for was changing the single passenger seat from a bolt-in seat to a quick release seat that makes the floor flat when ALL of the rear seats are removed.

One configuration that was really wanted and Ford took away was the 11 passenger seating, So many buyers like the 2 passenger second row seat instead of the longer 3 passenger seat. It gives you more room in the second row area and if you are placing a child in the child seat, you can stand inside the van and place them in the seat whereas you may be standing part of the way outside the van with the 3 passenger seat.
 

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No, the only way to make the mount work from the seat is to relocate the floor mounting bracket below the position where the seat leg would fit directly under it.
Long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm interested in purchasing a crew van but would like to have the factory 62" 3 seat bench mounted further back, possibly in a "1.5 position" between where the 1st and 2nd rows would be on a passenger model. I understand the mounts would have to be moved, but would it possible to move the mounts back a hole? ie use the existing rear holes for the front of the seat mounts and drill/fabricate new holes for the back of the mounts? Has anyone done this yet or other bench seat setback for the crew van? Does this render the rear curtain/canopy airbags ineffective (ie passengers are too far back)? Would appreciate any input anyone has on this. Thanks.
 

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Long time lurker, first time poster here. I'm interested in purchasing a crew van but would like to have the factory 62" 3 seat bench mounted further back, possibly in a "1.5 position" between where the 1st and 2nd rows would be on a passenger model. I understand the mounts would have to be moved, but would it possible to move the mounts back a hole? ie use the existing rear holes for the front of the seat mounts and drill/fabricate new holes for the back of the mounts? Has anyone done this yet or other bench seat setback for the crew van? Does this render the rear curtain/canopy airbags ineffective (ie passengers are too far back)? Would appreciate any input anyone has on this. Thanks.
I have been interested in the same thing.

Basically a HR ext crew van with the K seat moved back to the ~ the D seat position or as you point out, part way.

One approach is to use a passenger van but then you end up with air bags and windows where I don't want them.
 

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Best to remove the raised flooring from the CrewVan and move the seat back in the position you wish. This would require you to change the entry step panel from the 2" raised panel to the lower version used with the vinyl flooring on the cargo van. Then you could even get a vinyl floor covering from a cargo van so you would have a flat floor from the back of the front passenger seats to the rear of the van. The umbrella air bag system that is part of the CrewVan would be out of range when you move the seats back out of its position.

You could probably save more money just ordering a cargo van and adding the seat where you want. You would still be drilling into the metal floor to relocate the seat and not having the roof airbag would not be a factor anyway. The CrewVan model is about $2100 more than the same cargo van so you would be able to get the added seat you need and do most of the work involved on your own or through a upfitter.
 

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Best to remove the raised flooring from the CrewVan and move the seat back in the position you wish. This would require you to change the entry step panel from the 2" raised panel to the lower version used with the vinyl flooring on the cargo van. Then you could even get a vinyl floor covering from a cargo van so you would have a flat floor from the back of the front passenger seats to the rear of the van. The umbrella air bag system that is part of the CrewVan would be out of range when you move the seats back out of its position.

You could probably save more money just ordering a cargo van and adding the seat where you want. You would still be drilling into the metal floor to relocate the seat and not having the roof airbag would not be a factor anyway. The CrewVan model is about $2100 more than the same cargo van so you would be able to get the added seat you need and do most of the work involved on your own or through a upfitter.
I’m on that fence of doing one of the following:
1) ordering a Crew van with the 36” 2-person seat and tearing out the raised platform and extra seat mount. I don’t want the airbags and interior trim of the crew van either.
2) ordering a Cargo van and adding seat rails and a seat (almost) wherever I want.

Questions:
- Can I order the seat rails/bases and 36” 2-person seat from service parts or factory direct working with a dealer? I would install myself.
 

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I’m on that fence of doing one of the following:
1) ordering a Crew van with the 36” 2-person seat and tearing out the raised platform and extra seat mount. I don’t want the airbags and interior trim of the crew van either. Don't get this
2) ordering a Cargo van and adding seat rails and a seat (almost) wherever I want. This is probably the route to go

Questions:
- Can I order the seat rails/bases and 36” 2-person seat from service parts or factory direct working with a dealer? You need to get the seat and rails from a upfitter or if you get the Transit from me, I sometimes can get the matching 36" seat. NO problem getting the 36" Dark Palazzo Vinyl seat but the others are harder to get, especially the Dark Palazzo Gray Cloth or the Ebony Leather seats. I would install myself. There are lots of instructions on the Transit forum about installing the added seats and 2 videos that I know of.
Ordering the seat would be $1200 from the Ford dealer and the floor mounting brackets are $82 each.
 

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