Ford Transit USA Forum banner

1 - 20 of 30 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
7 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hi All,

I have a 2018 Transit 150 Extended WB/Mid Roof Cargo Van. I would like to add a 2 or 3 person bench seat. First challenge is finding a seat, but once I do, does anyone know if the mounts are there to install the seats into?

My cargo van has the factory rubber/vinyl floor liner so I cannot easily see the floor.

I wanted to ask on the forum and see if anyone has tried to add seats to a cargo van.

I would appreciate any feedback, tips or suggestions.

Thanks

Pete
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
140 Posts
By mounts do you mean the rails they clip into or threaded holes to bolt the rails into? Neither are there. I drilled holes in the floor and backed the sheet metal floor with metal plate underneath with grade 8 nuts and bolts. Where I wanted to mount my seat I had to also drop the gas tank to get to everything underneath.

There are at least a few videos on YouTube.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
Adding crew seats is a big want in this community. It's my biggest challenge also and barrier to entry for me.

Yes, you can add them yourself but it's not easy (at least to me) and I don't want to buy a passenger Wagon to get extra seating I don't need.

Why they haven't added crew seats as a factory option is bewildering. I'd think it a very high take rate.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,849 Posts
I seem to recall several threads on this topic, complete with how-to instructions and pictures. Am I imagining things? Perhaps one should search the forum and see if such threads already exist....
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
17 Posts
I seem to recall several threads on this topic, complete with how-to instructions and pictures. Am I imagining things? Perhaps one should search the forum and see if such threads already exist....
I've read those threads and they are very helpful.

There needs to be better factory options!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,856 Posts
I worked with the Ford Marketing Group for nearly a year back in 2016 trying to get the Crew Van package brought over from the Econoline series where you could get the 3 passenger full width behind the front passenger area in the cargo van. They even let a upfitter offer one that used some cheap aftermarket seats but nothing like the original Crew Van package that Ford previously offered using matching seat material.

All along there have been Transit forum members make their own version of the Crew Van package by adding a 2 or 3 passenger seat from the Transit wagon (passenger van) that has the matching seat material in most cases. By installing the floor rails from the wagon, you can have a removable seat that can be used when needed and placed in any position you desire. I have sold seats for every setup from a single Transit seat to the more common 2 passenger 36" seat. Then some have went with the 31" seat from the 12 passenger wagon to have more aisle room. Going with the 3 passenger seat, you have the option to go with the 54" seat or the full width 62" seat that covers the whole width of the van.

One I have heard of but not seen in person is the 4 seating made from the rear seating of the 12 passenger van that uses the 2 31" seats to make another full width seat across the width of the van. Another one I saw pictures of had 2 of the 31" seats mounted back to back on the driver's side so they could install canoes on the right hand side and have seating for 6 total passengers.

So many combinations you can do with the Transit seats in a cargo van. But it is on YOU to do it, and Ford will not do any seats in the Transit without the upper roof air bags. That was their FINAL WORD to me once I kept going to them for making a Crew Van package. As a alternative to the Crew Van package, I got Ford for the 2019 model to do the 'delete seat' packages where they will delete some seats in the passenger van.

NOW....you can get the 5 passenger seating in the 130" WB (SWB) and 8 passenger seating in the 148" WB (LWB) passenger van. Another option that was made is the 14 seat passenger van where the second row seating is changed from a 3 passenger seat to a 2 passenger seat so you can stand inside the van and put a child seat in the end seat without having to stand partly outside of the van.

Those are about ALL of the situations you can do for adding seats in the Transit. Ford will do them as long as they have ROOF AIR BAGS in the seating areas, and that is done in the passenger van configuration. Going with the cargo van, it is on your own to add the seats how you want them. Some forum members and Ford have made the issue of your bodily injury insurance being in question when you add the seats in the cargo van and that may be something you discuss with your insurance carrier.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,849 Posts
And so, kids, that is how CrewVanMan got his name. Every time he came into the Ford building, they would say "there's that crew van man again!" :D
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,897 Posts
And those Ford guys thought I was just one of those Texas guys from the sticks. They found out quickly I knew something about Fords from my previous work at Ford and the Transit in general. From owning my own Dual Sliding Doors Transit and input from forum members, I got to actually get some things added to the Transit in both standard equipment and options.

I went from trying to work with the Marketing Department to working with Matt Ford selling Transits for them when they wanted someone who really knew a lot about Transits to continue those special ordered sales. That helped me through help from Ryan Matt to become part of the Ford Transit Brand Group where I hope to have more suggestions and input to future models. I should know more about the 2020 model in March when I be in contact with that group and see what information they will release. They don't always want to let-the-cat-out-of-the-bag information to stop orders on the current models if there are a lot of NEW options that are not currently available. Most have been suggested here and some may be related to what is available on the European model. Don't know yet!.. and won't really know the full information until May when the 2020 Ford Transit Order Guide will show up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
The issue i have is not finding the seat or put it in, it look like a fun project it not big deal. My problem is being in Canada, it seam pretty hard to get the extra seats to be approved and legit ? any canadian out here that manage to do it and got the ok from the licence bureau and inssurance ?


Cheers!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,229 Posts
The issue i have is not finding the seat or put it in, it look like a fun project it not big deal. My problem is being in Canada, it seam pretty hard to get the extra seats to be approved and legit ? any canadian out here that manage to do it and got the ok from the licence bureau and inssurance ?


Cheers!
The only way to do it so that it is approved is to go to a mobility up fitter and have it done. I got a quote of $12,000 US to have two seats installed. That isn't a typo. As part of making it certified for passenger use, they also have to install interior panels, a fire extinguisher, seat belts, etc.

There are also quite a few people on this forum that will tell you that the aftermarket solutions with L-Track aren't good enough. I find it hard to believe that a seat with 12 mounts to L-track, each hole certified to a pull out strength of 6,000 pounds, mounted through the floor of the van every 4 inches with grade 8 hardware isn't as strong as the 4 bolts the factory uses, but that's just me.

I'll be mounting the seats myself in the back of a cargo van, using 7075-T6 L-track mounted through the floor every 4 inches, with a steel plate or very large washers depending on how much room there is on the bottom side to spread the load. Will it be certified? No. will it be stronger than OEM? Yes.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
The only way to do it so that it is approved is to go to a mobility up fitter and have it done. I got a quote of $12,000 US to have two seats installed. That isn't a typo. As part of making it certified for passenger use, they also have to install interior panels, a fire extinguisher, seat belts, etc.

I'll be mounting the seats myself in the back of a cargo van, using 7075-T6 L-track mounted through the floor every 4 inches, with a steel plate or very large washers depending on how much room there is on the bottom side to spread the load. Will it be certified? No. will it be stronger than OEM? Yes.

I totally agree with you on the L-track, but my goal is to have them safe, strong AND legal.


The mobility up fitter route really seam to be the only way to go around here in Quebec anyway..., run's around 3 to 4000$ including the bench :(
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,229 Posts
I totally agree with you on the L-track, but my goal is to have them safe, strong AND legal.


The mobility up fitter route really seam to be the only way to go around here in Quebec anyway..., run's around 3 to 4000$ including the bench :(
That's not a bad price. I'm just south of you between Gatineau and Morrisburg. Was the estimate you received from someone in the Gatineau area?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,849 Posts
Seems cheaper and easier to just buy a wagon and remove the seats (and maybe part of the raised floor) behind the remaining seat. If the goal is to be legal.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
13 Posts
That's not a bad price. I'm just south of you between Gatineau and Morrisburg. Was the estimate you received from someone in the Gatineau area?

For the record, i did not get a quote myself, its someone i have been talking to and a other guy who run's a vanlife renting business that have there seat installed and certified at the same place for +/- 3...4 000$cad.



Now, the job would be safe and all (just as safe as if you did it probably), but im not sure if a job like that made in Canada would be "legit" to be approuved in your state? The mod's needed to heve it done and approuved here is new seat(they are using Freeman) and windows. They are not taking about oem interiour finish and all.



The place is closer to Montreal, but i think any place that are certified to adapt vehicule in Canada could to it in this price range ? There migth be some closer to you in Ontario
 
1 - 20 of 30 Posts
Top