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Hi ya'll from Oregon.
I've previously owned an '89 Ford extended cargo and a '99 15 pax XLT passenger van, both set up for camping and surfing.
Both those vans were extremely reliable, if not exactly fuel efficient, and served their purpose well.
Now I have two kids (10 and 16) and need a little more room than those vans offered.
I've been eyeballing Sprinters for years, but wasn't in a position to buy one. Now the Transit is here and I can afford one, I'm about ready to order.
What I really want is a crew van, as it will be set up as a bare bones cargo/mountain bike hauler/surf-mobile, with a simple bed platform for two (kids get a tent, it builds character :) ) or folding bunks. Other than that, it will only have an electric fridge, microwave, solar, awning, and maybe some sort of small outdoor shower arraignment.
No cabinets, I'm gonna roll with Tupperware tubs and a simple racking set up for those. I saw that in someone else's build online. He had a rack in his garage identical to the one in his van. Each person had a tub based on activity, say a wetsuit tub, mtb gear tub, camping tub, etc. Grab a tub, throw it in the van and go. Take them out when your done.
So anyway, though I really like the Spinter Crew van (and to tell you the truth, I really want to like the Promaster, but wasn't too impressed with the build quality when I looked in one), and it seems to price out pretty close to the Ford after I add it up, I think I'm going with a High roof, Extended T250 with one of the gas engines.
So a few things to work out before I plunk down the money. 3.5 eco, or 3.7?
I won't be trailering anything more than a small utility trailer on occasion, so the 3.7 is probably enough, but that locks me into the 4.10 rear end. So the question is, if I keep my foot out of it, could I conceivably get better mileage with the 3.5 Eco? Most of my camping will be on secondary highways with low speed limits, and our freeway limits top out at 65mph here anyway. The turbo would probably be nice for trips to the Rockies with the altitude, but I'm not too worried about that. I like the idea of being able to nurse the eco 3.5 with the 3.31 rear, but I don't really know if I'll gain that much. This rig will only get driven probably 5k miles a year, so the mileage isn't really that big a deal anyway.
The other concern is rear seating.
On my '89, I mounted a used Flexsteel captains chair in the back, which was pretty easy on that rig, but I'm a little more concerned with having something safe for my kids to ride in. I could probably find a way to mount a couple captains chair with built in seatbelts, but that would be pretty expensive. The other route might be to retrofit a used rear Sprinter seat somehow. There's a guy that did that on the Promaster forum and it looks pretty nice.
So I think the seating thing will work out and I'm not holding my breath for a crew version of the Transit, but I'm mainly stuck on engine choice right now.
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As far as I can tell nobody yet knows the answer to the engine choice or aftermarket seating options.
Good luck getting the kids to keep those bins organized!
Nice idea though.
 

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I'm lucky that my kids are still young enough that they think I'm great and do what I ask them, for the most part anyway. My son's been setting up and breaking down his own tent for years, so that is a big help. All I have to do is keep shoving food in him :) I want to get this van project done so we can do some road trips together before they don't want to hang out with me anymore.
 

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Our 25 year old actually SUP'ed with his MOM two days ago......in PUBLIC!
You're raising them right, they might not want to get dropped off at school even in the cool surf bus one day, but by the time they're 20 they'll get over it and know their Dad is more fun than their other buddies.
 

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For engine choice, I don't see the ecoboost paying off for efficiency for you based on your stated needs. Basically buy it if you want the extra scoot. If not, the 3.7 should do just fine, especially if you drive on non-interstate highways and aren't in a hurry.
 

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I'm guessing you're right Mc2. The taller final drive will probably be more appropriate on secondary highways anyway. Still might get the Ecoboost for the fun factor though :)
 

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I came pretty close to bailing on the Transit and ordering a Sprinter 170 Crew for DIY conversion. Got some good quotes on those and was really on the fence. Then I drove the EcoBoost yesterday. Wow, that's a fun engine! That was also my first drive in the Transit and I'm sold. It reminded me of a larger version of a Sienna mini-van, very quiet and smooth. The other thing that impressed me is the fit and finish and how well the slider worked with just a couple fingers to close and open it. Very nice.
My biggest concern was lack of a crew option, but I stopped by Van Specialties in Portland after my test drive and checked out captains chairs with integrated belts. They said no problem putting those in, so that shouldn't be a concern. They also said CR Laurence is working on new windows for the Transit right now.
I'm sure I would have been happy with the Sprinter, but I'm not in a hurry, so I'm ordering 250 HR, Ext, 3.5l with most of the options except MyTouch. It's coming in about $4-5k less than a fairly stripped Sprinter, so that will easily cover the extra seats and another window.
BTW, after stomping on the gas a few times in the rain and testing the traction control :),
I reset the trip meter and babied it the last 10 miles or so, about half stop and go city and half 60mph freeway. Came in at just over 20mpg. Probably not realistic as I was really milking it, but under the right conditions it looks like it's capable of decent mileage.
I liked the Lunar Sky color in some pictures, but in others it looks like a UPS truck, so I'm thinking Sterling Gray right now.
 

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Hope that lunar sky doesn't make me look like big brown going down the road ;) I have had a number of white trucks and thought I would do something different. This color appealed to me, partly because of the name. I do astronomical imaging so it fits.

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JP4 your CR Laurence mention caught my eye. Here is their van page, with no mention of Transit yet, but as you say they will probably come up with windows, vents and skylights.

CRL Van Windows

Thanks for the heads up. The new Transit cargo Vans have tons of wall space available for lots of DIY window options.



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Yeah Dean, I really like Lunar Sky in some of the pictures, but others look more brown than grey. Probably color temperature issues in processing the photos. I'm going to try to find a vehicle in person with that color before I process the order. I don't really want to go quite as dark as the Sterling Grey, but I saw one in person and it looked really nice with the privacy glass.
 

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PeterR, yeah I can't imagine there won't be windows for these pretty soon. One cool thing I didn't know until we put together the orderr, is that you can order the flip out glass on the slider, so combined with an opening window behind the driver, I should be able to get some nice ventilation.
 

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JP4 I think even the rear windows will have the flip out option eventually, and that the sliding side doors (both sides) will clear them. TBD at this point.

Unfortunately the old Econoline windows hinged at the top are history -- they were great for ventilation in even a heavy rain.
 

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I don't think you'll see rear pop out windows, they stopped using them around 1993 in the US. None of the van makers have them and there's none on the aftermarket. It has to do with exhaust gas being sucked into the rear of the van.


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I don't think you'll see rear pop out windows, they stopped using them around 1993 in the US. None of the van makers have them and there's none on the aftermarket. It has to do with exhaust gas being sucked into the rear of the van.


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Yes, I misspoke earlier, I meant that at some point all the side windows in the rear of the van would eventually have the flip-out windows (assuming the sliding doors will clear the minimal window protrusions behind them).
 

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Jp4 I ordered mine in he Lunar sky, but I was skeptical at first since just like you I saw different photos online, some looked like the UPS truck but I took chance and ordered anyways and then my local dealer got one HR and I really like the color, it does not look brown at all, it's a very different color.
 

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Cool. Thanks Njhw, I'll make sure and take a look before I order. I was immediately drawn to the Lunar Sky color, so it's good to know it doesn't look like UPS. The Sterling Grey was just a back up in case I couldn't verify the color. I like the name too!
 
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