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NW_Freedom

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In the order form it says that you can now access this without dropping the fuel port. Do we know more about thisor is it a wait and see when they start showing up?
 
There are several threads on this forum regarding this topic. The short answer is that if you plan to use the fuel port for a gasoline heater, and plan to use the heater at higher altitudes you are better off installing the Espar standpipe and ignoring the OEM aux fuel port altogether.
 
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I'm well aware of how to do it and the need for the 300mm line. I was thinking that since it says access without dropping the tank for the 22 maybe they relocated the port.
 
I have propane but from reading past forum threads on the Transit pickup, Most people do not like the Transit fuel pickup because it only extends to the half of tank mark, It will not draw fuel bellow a half of tank. The tank has to be kept full to use the heater.
Also when the gas tank falls bellow a half of tank air gets in the fuel pickup lines causing you the have to re-prime the heater multiple times.
 
I have a 2022 Transit awd, hoping to use the aux connection on the top of the tank to make my life easier, but upon plugging in my VIN I can't find a match anywhere... does anyone know if they changed this connection for the 2022 vans? Or has anyone with a 2022 successfully installed a gas line via the aux port on the top of the tank?
 
I have a 2022 Transit awd, hoping to use the aux connection on the top of the tank to make my life easier, but upon plugging in my VIN I can't find a match anywhere... does anyone know if they changed this connection for the 2022 vans? Or has anyone with a 2022 successfully installed a gas line via the aux port on the top of the tank?
I have a 2022 as well. I am planning to get a heater but probably won't do that until later in the summer. Hopefully by then someone will post info on it!
 
I have a 2022 as well. I am planning to get a heater but probably won't do that until later in the summer. Hopefully by then someone will post info on it!
The dealership tech was able to tell me there’s some sort of factory fuel port for 2022, but couldn’t tell me where it was or if it’s the same as the previous years…
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
Here it is. Our fuel port line for the 2022. Well worth the money. I’m going to splice the esbar fuel pickup tube right into this and then my fuel line to the espar fuel pump
 

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Here it is. Our fuel port line for the 2022. Well worth the money. I’m going to splice the esbar fuel pickup tube right into this and then my fuel line to the espar fuel pump
That is super convienant! That will make it much easier for the person I hire to install it.
 
Here it is. Our fuel port line for the 2022. Well worth the money. I’m going to splice the esbar fuel pickup tube right into this and then my fuel line to the espar fuel pump
So they've made it the correct ID now? (IIRC it's something like 2mm for the Espar?).

I looked at that option and would gladly have paid for it but I assumed (since they didn't say that's all I could do) that it would be attached to - and extend - the same overly large pickup tube that one would use if one didn't have the extension line (and then would go back later and put the correct smaller pickup in and abandon the Ford one).

Ohhh, or do you mean you are going to somehow take 2mm ID tubing and thread it down there, colonoscopy style, inside the larger Ford tube? I never thought of that.

(I should add that it looks as though some people who used the larger ID Ford fuel pickup were able to run their heaters successfully, especially if they were at sea level and not at altitude. Others had problems until they used the recommended smaller ID pickup.)
 
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Yep I'm going to use the Espar tube for the 2mm and run the factory pickup already installed. It will do exactly the same as installing the Espar pickup in the fuel cell. It makes it super easy now. You could also not worry about it as others have done and just use this port. No more dropping the tank.
 
I'm not following either. Do you mean you are going to push the 2mm tube down through the ford pickup, colonoscopy style? That could be clever - I never thought of doing that.

How will you seal around the 2mm ID tube where it would go into the larger Ford extension fitting? An O-ring and clamp or ?

I agree that you could probably just use the larger pickup and not worry (too much) about it if staying at sea level.

Seems like the properties of gasoline make the gasoline-fueled units "fussier" at elevation which is why the smaller tube is more critical for the gas units. But then many winter van users ski, and that's in the mountains, so it seems like a lot of people (but maybe not you) want to be able to run the heaters above sea level.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
You don’t have to have the pickup in the fuel tank the fuel pump just want that diameter line for a pull you can insert it anywhere before the fuel pump really. Attach it just like any other fuel filter or whatever. My actual plan is to stuff it inside a larger hose with a inch or so on each end to put onto fuel line with hose clamps to secure it on.
 
The issue of not using the espar standpipe is not simply getting stuff connected together, but rather preventing bubbles from forming in the line at higher elevations. The more fuel you have to pump up, the greater chance of issues arising. Espar gets around this by having a very small standpipe tube.

Now all that being said, did they change something in 2022 to make it work better with low flow devices? I don't know.
 
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