[lolwisper4321]

The 6R80 was designed by ZF, a German company, but Ford builds them under license in Livonia Michigan
https://corporate.ford.com/company/plant-detail-pages/livonia-transmission-plant.html

Actually ZF has a large transmission plant in SC.

BTW the 6R80 is not the exact same in the different Transits- the 3.7 has fewer clutch plates than the 3.5 version.

Correct. But my link is for the 3.7 and there is also a rebuild kit for the 3.5 ECO boost as well.

 

[james madison]

Was there ever an update? What happened to the vans?

 

[Mobileempire]

This Ford tech says to definitely change the fluids sooner then Ford co recommends
https://youtu.be/Nse_z9RmPcQ

 

[Mobileempire]

I would hire a mechanic to install a somewhat old school engine and trannee in it , i would do it myself if i had a place to work on it.
I'm not that familiar with Ford's but I know for the Chevy I used to buy custom wiring harnesses were you could install a basic PCM , a few sensors and have a very simple setup , it was basically everything you needed to make it start and run like a champ but nothing you didn't need like emmissions etc.
I think them wiring harnesses were marketed to hot rodders like good guys , I'm pretty sure they have em for Fords too, maybe stick like a old 302 in it and some basic simple fuel injection. or a carb

 

[Mobileempire]

I'm curious , are these low , med or high roof?

 

[natureman]

Had the torque converter issue on my newish Colorado a month ago that was under warranty. The warranty process by Chev. seems to be change/flush/replace fluid with new designation fluid. If that does not work then replace torque converter. If that doesn't work then then replace tranny. The change/flush/replace fluid procedure must be precisely followed for it to work. So far so good on the fluid change. Again it is a transmission like the transit that is a sealed unit with no dip stick.

 

[kc8flb]

The maintainence schedule is to keep the vehicle running for the "Life of the vehicle" What ford thinks the life of the vehicle is and what I think the life of the vehicle is are vastly different.

Ford is in the business of selling/financing/leasing vehicles. Period. They want to you junk your two Transits and buy two brand new ones.

An OEM idea of life of a vehicle is somewhere between 100 and 150k miles. Thats it. Junk the vehicle and buy a brand new one after that. If you follow the maintenance schedule, you will make it to the "life of the vehicle" (100k-->150k miles). Don't expect it to last much after that.

if you want the vehicle to last longer than that, then you will have to do better/more frequent maintenance.

Transmission fluid and filter (drop the pan) changes every 40K->50K miles, oil changes every 3-->5K miles (even with super duper boutique synthetic oil), frequent gear oil and other changes. That will cost you more money and time. Overall its cheaper to do frequent maintenance than not to.

good reference article:

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/45

 

[ranxerox]

It was built to be a commercial work truck, Not a consumer vehicle. Companies buy a hundred or more of these at a time, Keep them 2 years and dump them.
It is what it is.

 

[sumwhatdim]

The torque converter went out on my 2016 250 diesel at about 40k

One of our other 2016 diesels just needed a new motor at 140k.

 

[CEJCPA]

I have a 2015 transit 250 with 46,000 miles. Drive shaft broke, wiped out wiring harnesses and trashed the transmission. New transmission will be necessary according to dealer.
The flexible coupler was replaced at 30,000 by the dealer. It looks like by van will be out of service for weeks.

 

[danno919]

We have a 2015 350 low roof. The trans started the "shudder" at about 90K miles. Ended up having a flush done. Then 2 days later a connector goes bad in the trans. The dealer has to drop the subframe to get into the trans pan. 10 days later the whole trans goes. We were 3 hours from home on a Sunday. Had it towed to a dealer in Northern MI. They tell me the dealer that did the original work should want it back to look at it as they see some questionable work. 4 to 5 days later after I had to get Ford involved the first dealer tells me they didn't do anything wrong and its not their problem. Of course they never looked at the van. So I keep Ford involved since its before their recommended 150K mile trans oil change. They come back willing to pay $1240 of the cost and labor to put a new trans in. The dealer it at quote seems very high and I start calling around and the trans was $2000 more at that dealer then another dealer by my house. They had also tacked on another $1000 labor on top of what they told Ford the repairs would cost. So that was $3000 more for the parts and repairs then they told Ford it would cost. I finally got them down to where the other dealer was cost wise. They said their pricing was market value in their area. So I give them the go a head and a week and a half later they come back saying the sub frame is trashed and needs to be replaced. Again speckulating the other dealership did crappy work taking it out and putting in back in the first time. So a 4 week ordeal that I had to make all the conversation happen. Neither dealer was responsive and its been a horrible nightmare trying to get Ford to help. This van has been used as a family car. No towing or heavy loads. Says a lot about the quality of the trans. I know the original post said they were $7500 a van to replace the trans. The trans from a dealer her at retail is $3700 We were quoted $5600 for a trans. Does Ford not care that their dealers are adding those huge mark ups?

 

[Mister John]

Hello all,

We have 2 2015 Transit 250's, both are likely in need of new transmissions.

Transit 1: ~150,000 highway miles. Will not go into gear. Tech's say that the transmission fluid is black and the transmission needs to be replaced. Cost ~$7500

Transit 2: ~90,000 highway miles. Won't shift gears. Currently awaiting diagnostics at the dealer after being towed in. I'm assuming we will get the same news here.


These vans have been dealer maintained. Neither gave any indication of issue until they needed to be towed in last week. They were both displaying "transmission service required" upon being towed. We did request the transmission of transit 1 be flushed at the 100,000 mile mark but the dealer declined stating they the transmission was hard lined and could not be flushed without cutting the line. We were told the transmissions were "filled for life" and did not need to be flushed until 150K miles in severe duty applications.

These vans are light load, no towing, highway miles vans. We are now looking at a potential repair bill of $15,000. Dealer is not advising rebuilding as there are no rebuild kits available. Anyone else having issues?

We use to run E250's for 250K+ miles without major issues.

Anyone else have high mileage transits? These are 148" WB, medium roof vans.

Thanks!
Ryan

I bought a 2017 Ford transit New. We now have 610 000 kms (366 000 miles) The transmission have a temporary vibration that comes and goes while at highway speed in O/D. It has gotten worse and now will vibrate more often. Solution is to rebuild. Cost 4,000 $. I am very surprised that you got only 150k out of yours if driven highway only?

 

[waynebuckingham]

Hello all,

We have 2 2015 Transit 250's, both are likely in need of new transmissions.

Transit 1: ~150,000 highway miles. Will not go into gear. Tech's say that the transmission fluid is black and the transmission needs to be replaced. Cost ~$7500

Transit 2: ~90,000 highway miles. Won't shift gears. Currently awaiting diagnostics at the dealer after being towed in. I'm assuming we will get the same news here.


These vans have been dealer maintained. Neither gave any indication of issue until they needed to be towed in last week. They were both displaying "transmission service required" upon being towed. We did request the transmission of transit 1 be flushed at the 100,000 mile mark but the dealer declined stating they the transmission was hard lined and could not be flushed without cutting the line. We were told the transmissions were "filled for life" and did not need to be flushed until 150K miles in severe duty applications.

These vans are light load, no towing, highway miles vans. We are now looking at a potential repair bill of $15,000. Dealer is not advising rebuilding as there are no rebuild kits available. Anyone else having issues?

We use to run E250's for 250K+ miles without major issues.

Anyone else have high mileage transits? These are 148" WB, medium roof vans.

Thanks!
Ryan

107k miles, slipping...serviced, black stinky oil...quoted 3800 + labor...looking for rebuild

 

[Yukon Jack]

Just an FYI, we have had a 2015 250 w/3.2 Diesel, a 2015 250 w/3.5 turbo and a 2016 350 cutaway box w/3.7 engine. Both the 2015’s had extended warranty’s to 125K miles. Both Transmissions failed during warranty and Ford replaced. The 350 did not have extended warranty and had to replace trans at about 110K miles. The 3.5 van now has 310K miles and is needing a new 3rd transmission. Private shop has quoted $6200 for replacement. Van is going into dealership this week for a recall item, will get a quote from them to compare. So I would say look to replace them every 100k - 150K miles.

 

[Mountainhigh]

Funny thing is we have a MB sprinter! After we get done with this we may be getting a few more.

I have only spoken with the dealer at this point. I wanted them to diagnose the 2nd van before we did anything with the first <-- They thought this was a strange request. IF it turns out they both need new transmissions I will be working my way up the chain with Ford. I understand things break but 2 transmissions in what I consider average mileage for commercial vehicles, something is wrong here.

I have the same problem with my 2015 Transit T250. The dealership said it was a transmission speed sensor. They hooked up their code reader and that’s what it showed. It would be great if you could access it from the outside. I was told you have to drop the valve body. No one wants to do it. I tried to get a fluid and filter change and haven’t been successful yet.