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I'm writing this in hopes this will draw some attention to Ford's problems with Transit launch and more importantly their nonexistent customer service! Our story started in early July of 2014 where we decided to go with the Ford Transit as our new family vehicle. This was a decision we made after a month of reviewing the Mercedes Spinter and Nissan NV options. We were at that time in a position of need (and still are) due to the birth of our newborn child in June and having outgrown our 2006 Honda Odyssey Touring. We also needed to find a vehicle that could accommodate our two handicap boys that will both be soon wheelchair bound due to the horrible Duchennes Muscular Dystrophy disease. Once we were told we could have a Transit built in 6-8 weeks we decided to go with what we thought was the best choice at the time.
Our problems started as soon as we built our Transit online thru the online build application. We submitted the build after selecting out local dealer. We waited over a week and never heard from the dealer even though the email we received said we would hear from a sales representative within three business days. I called to find out they never received anything. I submitted it again and again nothing. The third time I sent it to my email and forwarded it to them myself.
We then continued to work with them to get some questions answered on the seating removability, wiring, flooring, dual battery, and heavy duty alternator options. We wanted to make sure we were ordering the best options for the mobility conversion. After getting no where with the delear on some of these questions and having them tell me that Ford corporate isn't able to answer them I decided to call the customer service hotline myself. After two weeks of talking to several people in customer service I was told the details of these options weren't available. I should of took my money elsewhere at this time but I reached out thru this forum and to dealers across the US to get my questions answered. After sorting thru this for two more weeks I asked my dealer to start the order.
Thinking we were past the major problems at this time I soon realized it wasn't even close to being over! As soon as they entered the details from the build email I sent them from the corporate build application I found out that the leather seating option wasn't available on the 12 passenger wagon xlt model even though I was able to build this and submit it. I then posted this on this forum to find out someone had seen this at a show on the exact same van. At this time I thought my local dealer didn't know what they were doing so I contacted a dealer from Fort Wayne Indiana. I was told by them that that option was available and they didn't know what they were doing. I decided to move my business. Oh were my problems just starting!
This new dealer calls me the same day to tell me that they were wrong about the leather seats. At this point we were so drained by the process we just had them order it with the dark cloth hoping this would last with the kids. Three days later I was told that it wouldnt be 6-8 weeks it would be closer to 12 weeks.
Two weeks before the 12 weeks delivery we called to check the status since we didnt receive a VIN like we were told we would. Our salesperson called them to find out that it wasn't going to make the date and they didn't know when it would be started for they were waiting on parts. We were completely shocked by this for we had surely thought it would of been done before the holidays and we just are so tired of spending the money driving two vehicles everywhere.
We received word in early December that our Transit was started and was due the week of 12/22. Well that date is past and we are still waiting for a answer. Our dealer says it is done but just missed the train and won't ship until shutdown is over on 1/5/15. The corporate regional customer service manager, Summer, called yesterday to tell me they were sorry and further suggested that they don't know when it will be done and isnt sure where the dealer got their information. I asked to speak to her Supervisor which just called to tell me the same thing and when I asked why I am getting different information from the dealer he suggested that they don't represent Ford and are independent. We are so upset and confused by all of this! How can Ford not know when we are going to get our vehicle and why are they not standing behind their dealer? Any suggestions on how to resolve this would be great!
I can tell you that I have worked for Ford in the past, designing their automated assembly equipment, and this situation would leave us with 10k+/hour in penalties on some of their launches. How can this double standard exist? I find this disheartening and a complete letdown. Please help me spread this word and lets hope they wake up soon for the sake of the domestic automotive industry!
 

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Condolences Brian! Yes, this roll-out is a mess . . .

If you post your VIN and window sticker on the following thread, you can at least get some helpful feedback IMO about where your Transit is stuck:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...-window-sticker-tracking-build-dates-vin.html

Check the recent posts about getting a Status Report from your dealer if possible.

Thanks for leading the way on the remove-ability of bench seats many months ago!

Peter

PS -- Not sure how up your are on different threads here for different purposes, but I tried to sum things up a day or two ago:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/77353-post163.html

If I can help with any of these steps, just post in the thread which makes the most sense for where you are, and we will take it from there. Hopefully CrewVanMan can chime in over the weekend . . .
 

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Hi All,
I'm writing this in hopes this will draw some attention to Ford's problems with Transit launch and more importantly their nonexistent customer service!
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Rounding up the posse . . .

Peter
 
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I need you VIN and the dealer you are working with. Even though the plant is closed for the holidays, they are still loading Transits on the rail at the plant and at the distribution centers. Just watched a load of 3 white Transits leave the Forney Rd Distribution Center here in Texas heading out to a Ford dealer.

Since Alan Mulally started working on his retirement in Jan 2014 and officially retired on July,1, 2014 , there has been a lot of changes at Ford and most have been the new launch of the Ford Transit and the F-150. Apparently Ford has their own plan and left the dealers in the cold about that plan. Besides the orders on the Transit, I have a friend who ordered a 2015 F-150 King Ranch back in September that was told he would get it early December. He needed to get it in 2014 for his business and his tax writeoff for the year end. Today is December 31st and he does not have his truck and the dealer cannot tell him when he will get it. And guess what plant the NEW F-150 is built? Same Kansas City plant as the Transit!
 

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The KC F-150 line just shut down a few weeks ago from 2014 production, (steel body). It won't be back in 2015 aluminum production for a couple more months.
Right now the Dearborn truck plant is the only one building the 2015 Aluminum F-150 at a VERY slow rate.
As far as ordering a '15 F-150 for delivery soon, that's a pipe dream....
 

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.... Once we were told we could have a Transit built in 6-8 weeks we decided to go with what we thought was the best choice at the time.

....We then continued to work with them to get some questions answered on the seating removability, wiring, flooring, dual battery, and heavy duty alternator options. We wanted to make sure we were ordering the best options for the mobility conversion. ;;;;;;; After two weeks of talking to several people in customer service I was told the details of these options weren't available. I should of took my money elsewhere at this time but I reached out thru this forum and to dealers across the US to get my questions answered. After sorting thru this for two more weeks I asked my dealer to start the order.
Thinking we were past the major problems at this time I soon realized it wasn't even close to being over! As soon as they entered the details from the build email I sent them from the corporate build application I found out that the leather seating option wasn't available....

.....This new dealer calls me the same day to tell me that they were wrong about the leather seats. At this point we were so drained by the process we just had them order it with the dark cloth hoping this would last with the kids. Three days later I was told that it wouldnt be 6-8 weeks it would be closer to 12 weeks. ....

.......Two weeks before the 12 weeks delivery we called to check the status since we didnt receive a VIN like we were told we would. Our salesperson called them to find out that it wasn't going to make the date and they didn't know when it would be started for they were waiting on parts. We were completely shocked by this for we had surely thought it would of been done before the holidays

....We received word in early December that our Transit was started and was due the week of 12/22. Well that date is past and we are still waiting for a answer. Our dealer says it is done....

..... I asked to speak to her Supervisor which just called to tell me the same thing and when I asked why I am getting different information from the dealer he suggested that they don't represent Ford and are independent.

yes, yes,...and....yes. ...almost same story, same NEED. Though we started the process on May 23 and a failed promised ETA on Dec29....

One reason, that I had to find out on my own is:

My dealership was bought out by some company I've never heard of and not one email, phone call or a whisper in any of my weekly updates that they were in this transition period....

Asbury Automotive Group, Inc. Acquires New Ford Store in Texas

The sales manager and sales woman who sold us our Transit are no longer employed there and they can't get their computers synced to the new company...

I expected to have my sister out of the Nursing Home ...Thanksgiving sorry Katie... Christmas... sorry again Katie.... New Years .....

I have plateaued on emotions.....Medicaid spend down is over JAN 15TH.

Don't know the full consequences of not meeting the spend down as the lack of info from Medicaid is the same as the House of Ford.....I digress....

I feel every word and emotion you are going through....

All I can do now is raise my arms and shout ...do to me whatever you think is best....as....at this moment...I don't care anymore....
 

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I need you VIN and the dealer you are working with. Even though the plant is closed for the holidays, they are still loading Transits on the rail at the plant and at the distribution centers. Just watched a load of 3 white Transits leave the Forney Rd Distribution Center here in Texas heading out to a Ford dealer.

Since Alan Mulally started working on his retirement in Jan 2014 and officially retired on July,1, 2014 , there has been a lot of changes at Ford and most have been the new launch of the Ford Transit and the F-150. Apparently Ford has their own plan and left the dealers in the cold about that plan. Besides the orders on the Transit, I have a friend who ordered a 2015 F-150 King Ranch back in September that was told he would get it early December. He needed to get it in 2014 for his business and his tax writeoff for the year end. Today is December 31st and he does not have his truck and the dealer cannot tell him when he will get it. And guess what plant the NEW F-150 is built? Same Kansas City plant as the Transit!
Thanks CrewVanMan...I will locate the VIN for you. What can you do with this? I was reading Peter's comment but haven't had time to look into this. Thanks again!
 

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I need you VIN and the dealer you are working with. Even though the plant is closed for the holidays, they are still loading Transits on the rail at the plant and at the distribution centers. Just watched a load of 3 white Transits leave the Forney Rd Distribution Center here in Texas heading out to a Ford dealer.

Since Alan Mulally started working on his retirement in Jan 2014 and officially retired on July,1, 2014 , there has been a lot of changes at Ford and most have been the new launch of the Ford Transit and the F-150. Apparently Ford has their own plan and left the dealers in the cold about that plan. Besides the orders on the Transit, I have a friend who ordered a 2015 F-150 King Ranch back in September that was told he would get it early December. He needed to get it in 2014 for his business and his tax writeoff for the year end. Today is December 31st and he does not have his truck and the dealer cannot tell him when he will get it. And guess what plant the NEW F-150 is built? Same Kansas City plant as the Transit!
Please help...all we want is a dependable vehicle that we will be able to use for our sons handicap needs well into the future. That's all we ever wanted and these additional stresses are just streching us thin. Thanks for all your help. The VIN is 1FBZX2CM7FKA36766 and the dealer is Bob Thomas Ford. I really think my dealer is tying to help here but they seem to have no leverage against Ford. Thanks again for your help!
 

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Thanks CrewVanMan...I will locate the VIN for you. What can you do with this? I was reading Peter's comment but haven't had time to look into this. Thanks again!
Brian you are in good hands with CrewVanMan, here on this thread. Disregard my suggestions for now.
 

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Your Transit was started in production on 12/06/2014; checked on ETIS and it has not passed inspection. Only holdup I can see may be the MYFordTouch Radio or Lane Keeping Alert. Already have seen Transits released with this radio but nothing on the Lane Alert.

I am showing 2 Bob Thomas Ford dealers......one on Illinois Rd and other Coliseum. Which dealer did you place your order.

Will try to get my contact in Dearborn to help.
 

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My friend ordered a 2015 F-150 King Ranch Super Crew with 6.5 ft Box, 5.0L engine, 601A Package with King Ranch Chrome Pkg, Caribou exterior and Java interior. He has a VIN and nothing on a window sticker yet.

So you see there are problems with getting a F-150 as well as the Transit! You are correct about the Dearborn truck plant. My contact in Dearborn looked for me and could not see anything about his F-150 being scheduled at the Dearborn plant. Like the Transit, they are basically building STOCK ORDERS for the dealers and holding back on the SPECIAL ORDERS.
 

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Ordered My Transit on MAY 10th, Told ETA in July. I own an Auto Glass business, The past year I trained my Son in the business, (We are Mobile only) so He was to take over my current ride (09 E150) and operate in a bigger city market an hour South of my current market. His Yellow Book Ad came out in November, He is getting calls daily for installs and I have to go South to do the work as well as do all my installs up North, If we had know Ford would Drop the ball on this roll out as well as their Customer NO Service, He would of bought a Van and had it uplifted. It was a no brainer for my Son to take over my ride since it is all lettered, had the tool bins, Glass Rack and Hydrotherm urethane heater already to go. I understand there is problems with a New Production model as well as a New Plant (or a plant put back in service).... It just makes me Mad Ford can not tell me why the latest Production delay is all about. Seriously... Make something up instead of saying... "We Don't Know" When WE all know...FORD knows the answer.
 

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Ordered My Transit on MAY 10th, Told ETA in July. I own an Auto Glass business, The past year I trained my Son in the business, (We are Mobile only) so He was to take over my current ride (09 E150) and operate in a bigger city market an hour South of my current market. His Yellow Book Ad came out in November, He is getting calls daily for installs and I have to go South to do the work as well as do all my installs up North, If we had know Ford would Drop the ball on this roll out as well as their Customer NO Service, He would of bought a Van and had it uplifted. It was a no brainer for my Son to take over my ride since it is all lettered, had the tool bins, Glass Rack and Hydrotherm urethane heater already to go. I understand there is problems with a New Production model as well as a New Plant (or a plant put back in service).... It just makes me Mad Ford can not tell me why the latest Production delay is all about. Seriously... Make something up instead of saying... "We Don't Know" When WE all know...FORD knows the answer.
CrewVanMan has replied to you here:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/78129-post443.html
 

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Your Transit was started in production on 12/06/2014; checked on ETIS and it has not passed inspection. Only holdup I can see may be the MYFordTouch Radio or Lane Keeping Alert. Already have seen Transits released with this radio but nothing on the Lane Alert.

I am showing 2 Bob Thomas Ford dealers......one on Illinois Rd and other Coliseum. Which dealer did you place your order.

Will try to get my contact in Dearborn to help.
Thanks CrewManVan. The order was placed thru the Illinois road dealer. Do you know when those options will be ready? Are these software installs or is the hardware the holdup? Thanks for all your help!
 

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Thanks CrewManVan. The order was placed thru the Illinois road dealer. Do you know when those options will be ready? Are these software installs or is the hardware the holdup? Thanks for all your help!
Hopefully this will be cleared up soon, brian. I don't think the MyFord Touch is the problem, as Transits with MFT are being delivered. The following thread should start to see posts as folks get some experience with their MFT:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...ouch-radio-actually-received-new-transit.html

I don't know about the Lane Keeping Alert being the delay, but CrewVanMan should be able to get more information after the KC plant opens up again. Tuesday might be a realistic day to be able to get information from the factory. I also ordered this option, as did many IMO, so I am curious for further insights on this item.

Hang in there -- the repercussions on your business are certainly a drag! My old Econoline Club Wagon was a combined carpentry work and play vehicle, so I know how important it is to have the right tool with you every day (the van as tool).
 

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Update 1 on Lane Keeping Alert 41(C) -- ["LKA"]

On my order confirmation, this is the line item:

"41C LANE KEEP ALERT"

I have done an Internet search for this term with and without quotes, and have changed "KEEP" to "Lane Keeping Alert" which is how my hard copy dealer order guide refers to this option [11/01/14 version -- p. 9]. I have also searched this site for various combinations of this term, and only my XLT Wagon post comes up.

This dealer order guide says the 41C option is included in radios with SYNC, and the line item for MyFord Touch says that LKA is included in MFT.

So one further path of inquiry is to see if current owners now receiving MFT do indeed have the LKA included:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...-actually-received-new-transit.html#post79737

camarina73 is picking up his Transit soon, so maybe next week he will be able to chime in on this issue.

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/79097-post172.html

rondrond is another possibility TBD.

The absence of search hits here and on the Web suggests that the Lane Keeping Alert may be a problem for all of us -- TBD for now.
 

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Update 2 on Lane Keeping Alert

fogartykck has provided the 1/2/15 dealer order guide, which still contains the 41C Lane Keeping Alert option -- one more clue.

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/79849-post6.html

The original p. 9 of the dealer guide is on p. 6/7 at his DropBox link.

And packerbacker has provided additional insights here:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/79833-post8.html

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Edit Monday morning early -- camarina73 has received his MyFord Touch, so this is probably not the hold up for brian IMO.

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...ouch-radio-actually-received-new-transit.html
 

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Update 3 on Lane Keeping Alert

I really didn't want the lane keeping system however, it came with the package I ordered. I finally ran into the local Culligan man driving a Transit, He has had it for only 4 days, I was looking it over real good trying to fit in all my up lift ideas, Looking at the Windshield (camera) I said... Oh you have the Lane keeping option.... Whats that he said... So I explained it. So it's obviously something you have to go in and turn on, (like a rain sensor) I explained to him that it alerts you if you go out of your lane as in crossing the center paint. I believe I read it makes your steering wheel vibrate. I thought it also gave you an audible beep but I am not sure if the Transit LKAS does that. As a Windshield guy, It could be one of 2 things if this is the reason for the delay, The actual camera, or the Windshield.... The windshield for this option is different, it has a different frit and an additional bracket to hold the camera option. So who knows.
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Thanks for your feedback above in the MyFord Touch thread. camarina73 has posted photos of his new Wagon at the Actual Delivery thread, and I am wondering if you can tell from the following photo whether the Lane Keeping Alert System is included in his Wagon? From your description above, the camera does not seem to be there, unless it is buried in the front of the MFT unit (but I don't see it in the reflection in the windshield, if you are following me here) Thanks.

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...rdered-transit-img_20150104_161738692_hdr.jpg
 

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camarina73 advises he does have LKA, so it may be that the delay for brianvanhouten is neither the MyFord Touch nor the LKA?

The LKA camera is below the rear-view mirror.

Wonder what CrewVanMan will find out?

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/80297-post191.html
 

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Google 2015 Ford transit and hit images.... look close at the front views. The black V looking shape in the center of the windshield (Top). We call this a "Third Visor" It is part of the Windshield Frit Band (Black band around the edge of the Windshield) The Frit does 2 things, Protects the Urethane (Seal) From the Sun's UV rays and also hides the seal, Older cars had chrome to hide this. Look close at the 3rd visor, Transits without the LKAS has a much shorter frit, almost stops even with the Mirror, Ones with the LKAS clearly has a longer frit band and you can see the little square box cut out of the frit, there is a Camera in this box that does the trick. Going from what I know from other cars with bells and whistles attached to the mirror area, There will be a plastic two part cover around the base of the rear view mirror, This pops off and a plastic contraption will be glued to the windshield that holds the camera in the right location, Snap the camera into this spot then the garnish covering and you are done.
 
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