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Question Towing 6500 GVWR camper through mountains

I am a new transit owner. Just purchased a used 2015 Transit 150 XLT 3.7L. I have a WDH that brings my max tow capacity up to 8,000 lbs. My question is, will this van, loaded with 8 passengers, have enough power to tow a 6,500 lbs GVWR (4,600 dry) travel trailer up the main passes here in Colorado?
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Where are you getting your info? My 2017 owner's manual lists 5200 lbs max towing for the wagon with the 3.7 and the 4.1 rear diff.

And it says:

Weight Distributing Hitches
A weight distribution hitch is not
recommended for use with your vehicle

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That passenger van probably has the 3.73 rear axle and in the LR model it is 4700 and the MR is 4500. You can't get the 4.10 rear axle ratio in the T-150 passenger van, only in the T-350 LWB model.

You would need to have the Trailer Tow package and use the tow mode feature to keep the transmission engaged for a longer time period for best towing shifting.
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Looking at the Ford Transit Towing Guide, I see 4600 - 5100lbs as the limit for the 150, depending on body type and rear end ratio. So your empty trailer will bump into that limit.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...Tgde_May19.pdf Page 21.

You also have to consider limits on GVWR, GCWR and rear axle weight. With eight passengers, you could hit any of those limits.
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You are looking at a 2015 Towing Guide. If you need a updated one for the current Transit model it is on the Matt Ford site under Transit Customers site.
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I am a new transit owner. Just purchased a used 2015 Transit 150 XLT 3.7L. I have a WDH that brings my max tow capacity up to 8,000 lbs. My question is, will this van, loaded with 8 passengers, have enough power to tow a 6,500 lbs GVWR (4,600 dry) travel trailer up the main passes here in Colorado?
I have a 2015 10 passenger with the 3.7l and 3.73 rear axle.
Several things, some already mentioned above, are:
1) your max tow is 4,700 lbs and max tongue weight is 470 lbs.
2) ford does not recommend wdh but that doesn't mean you can't use one. Lawyer semantics. You MAY damage your frame.
3) I would not pull anything without the wdh and sway control....just don't overload it.
4) I pulled a 4,600 lb Toyota Sienna plus the dolly that weighed about 700 lbs with mine. Hardly felt it. I have the tow/haul mode. On 6% grades (west Wisconsin) the transmission shifted down once. We were doing 65 mph.
5) I will probably go with an Anderson no sway hitch (new updated version). They only weigh 60lbs.
6) I will likely purchase a Lance 2185 in the future. About 4,400 lbs dry. Depending on model year, tongue can be about 500 lbs or 700 lbs.
7) mine is the 10 passenger....I removed the back 3 person seat. Has to be around 150 lbs (Don't need it). That lightens my load especially in the back. (Had the seat in while pulling the Sienna)
8) make sure you have a break controller.
Had no break controller when pulling the Sienna but we stopped fine but not as quickly as I would have liked.
8) Don't go over those mountain passes in 90° heat. No experience with that but you MIGHT have some overheating issues?

Go to about 12:30 mark in this YouTube video. Ford is using a wdh in their test.
https://youtu.be/ecY0CvCHkZg

I very much respect those here that say to stay in your weight limits and to not use a wdh. I strongly disagree with the no wdh since it is a safety issue. Even if you only have 400 lbs of tongue weight, this effects your ability to control your vehichle. Ford says you can pull 4,700 lbs...but as I recall in many states you MUST have a wdh and sway control for anything over 3,000 lbs. Huh...

Edit: that 3,000 lb limit may have to do with the brake controller requirements and not the wdh.

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I have a 2015 10 passenger with the 3.7l and 3.73 rear axle.
Several things, some already mentioned above, are:

2) ford does not recommend wdh but that doesn't mean you can't use one. Lawyer semantics. You MAY damage your frame
Frame? It's a unibody....... That's why you shouldn't use a weight distribution hitch. Very few unibody vehicles allow the use of a wdh.

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Go to about 12:30 mark in this YouTube video. Ford is using a wdh in their test.
https://youtu.be/ecY0CvCHkZg
The results of that testing with a WDH may be what prompted Ford to say 'do not use a WDH'.

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