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I initially wanted the Ram Master, at the time they were much cheaper than the Transit, and obviously the Sprinter. The low rear drop axle worried me enough that I eliminated it as a choice, though. And at about that same time, for some inexplicable reason the Ram Van prices went up to be the same as the Transit. There are always discounts on Transits, and dealers are willing to budge a lot (my van was $26k new), but Sprinters are rarely less than MSRP. At least when I was shopping.

But yeah, at first the PM being wider, cheaper and getting better MPG was my choice. They are probably fine, since they are the most popular platform in Europe for RV builders and upfitters.

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I initially wanted the Ram Master, at the time they were much cheaper than the Transit, and obviously the Sprinter. The low rear drop axle worried me enough that I eliminated it as a choice, though. And at about that same time, for some inexplicable reason the Ram Van prices went up to be the same as the Transit. There are always discounts on Transits, and dealers are willing to budge a lot (my van was $26k new), but Sprinters are rarely less than MSRP. At least when I was shopping.

But yeah, at first the PM being wider, cheaper and getting better MPG was my choice. They are probably fine, since they are the most popular platform in Europe for RV builders and upfitters.
You won't get any kind of deal on a 4x4 Sprinter, but I believe the "got to have" craziness on the 4x4 has increased the dealer's willingness to negotiate on the 2WD models. I paid way less than MSRP on mine. Kind of irrelevant now that the new bodystyle Sprinter is out. I priced out a new one and they appear to have gotten about $5k more expensive. While Sprinters were previously diesel-only, now diesel is an expensive option much like the Transit. So the new GAS Sprinter starts out at the same base price as the previous-gen diesel Sprinter. If you're like me and only want diesel, a base van is going to cost you that much more. I'd be very interested in the 4 cyl diesel Transit if I were in the market.

The Promaster has an entirely different powertrain in the rest of the world. Chrysler literally looked around in their parts bin and put a Dodge Caravan engine and transmission in the van. Actually the powertrain is widely used in Dodge and Chrysler cars, SUVs and Jeeps. I can't imagine the transmission was ever designed to carry the kind of payload + towing capacity the Promaster has. Regardless of its intent, there's no arguing the transmission is big weakness on the PM.

I'm not here to rag on the PM, but there's also a very well known rocker arm problem that is all over the web, just google "dreaded pentastar tick." Jasper, a used/rebuilt engine manufacturer, has basically completely rebuilt the Promaster engine with better parts than Chrysler saw fit to use from the factory. I took this picture from Automotive Engineering maganzine when my Sprinter was being smogged at an auto shop.




I think it's sad the aftermarket has to address Chrysler's shortcomings.

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High roof RAM Vs Transit

Note that if you are talking the high roof Transit (not the mid), it has quite a bit more interior height than the RAM. The interior height of the mid transit is 72", the High is 81.5", whereas the High Promaster is 76". A lot depends on your height as to which one fits you best.

On the other hand, they are very different vans from a van life perspective in that one is FWD, the other RWD and the interior width of the RAM is about 4" more. The Transit drives really nice and has great power with eco boost.

I may not have helped with the decision but those are the nuances of each van.
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Of course it depends on what you want to use it for. I'm surprised that @Mobileempire was the only one that mentioned the front wheel drive. That was a deal breaker for me but I suppose it doesn't matter to a lot of users.

Also surprising that wasn't mentioned, the PM is more square on the inside so it would be a lot easier to build out (from what I read) if that's something you're doing.

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......cut..... The interior height of the mid transit is 72", the High is 81.5", whereas the High Promaster is 76". A lot depends on your height as to which one fits you best.

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Agree. I was at Ford dealer for oil change on my old van yesterday, and took a very quick look at Transit again. I donít know how the 72Ē height is measured for mid-roof Transit, but it seemed lower than that under the roof ribs. I didnít have a tape with me, but it seems the ProMaster is more than 4Ē taller inside. Iíll have to double check, because the high roof Transit is out of the question for me.

Iím not towing much, and like idea of AWD Transit, but if Ford offered FWD Transit in North America, Iíd seriously consider it for the added headroom alone. The RWD mid roof is very tight.
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How many heights does Transit have? I am about 66Ē, and touched the roof ribs in what I thought was a mid. About the same as a low-roof PM. (Both bare vans). That would be absolute no-no for me.
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How many heights does Transit have? I am about 66”, and touched the roof ribs in what I thought was a mid. About the same as a low-roof PM. (Both bare vans). That would be absolute no-no for me.
Transits are available in 3 heights, 2 wheelbases, and 3 lengths. The extended length is available with Dual rear Wheels as well.

FWIW, it appears this thread is providing good information for those with comparison questions, yet @ShawnL who started this thread appears to have thrown out the question and then left the forum with only that one single post.

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Transits are available in 3 heights, 2 wheelbases, and 3 lengths. The extended length is available with Dual rear Wheels as well.

FWIW, it appears this thread is providing good information for those with comparison questions, yet @ShawnL who started this thread appears to have thrown out the question and then left the forum with only that one single post.
Also keep in mind that the Wagon (passenger) Transits have 2.5-3" less interior height than the cargo vans due to the raised floor.
I'm 5'10 and can touch the ribs with my head if I stand straight and on my toes a bit, in my MR140 cargo Transit. In the center. Ribs are a couple inches lower toward the windows because of the curved roof, but I can't get close enough to the walls to stand there so it doesn't matter. (because of cabinets, wheel wells, etc)
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Roof ribs curbed to a greater degree might make it very difficult for me to have a shower near walls in a mid-roof Transit.

I havenít seen any factory mid-roof Transit Class Bs (all were high roof), but expect that overhead cabinets would end up much smaller in a mid-roof Transit than ProMaster. ProMaster is much wider near the top, so cabinets could be deeper and taller (everything else being equal).
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Anything in the known universe has to better than an Fiat, built in Mexico, with a Chrysler mini van powertrain. How does this even rise to the level of debate?
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