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Question Would the Stop/Start system on a 2020 Transit make you get a 2019?

With the Start/Stop System being added to so many Ford vehicles once they get updated electronic systems introduced to their NEW models, would you buy a 2019 model to keep from getting a Transit with this on it?

Once we get the information on the 2020 Transit, there will be about a 2 to 3 week time frame when you will be able to order a 2019 model. As of now, the last day to order a 2019 model will be May 31st. First orders for the 2020 model can be taken on June 17th and those orders will be held as a group until July 18th when scheduling will begin. First scheduled 2020 build dates will begin on September 9th or earlier based on how the last 2019 orders get processed.

Many things can change those dates from a increase or decrease in 2019 Transit orders to any plant changes that may need to be made for beginning the 2020 model production. If a AWD model is part of the 2020 production, there may need to be added areas for this particular model and they may stop the assembly line for a short time to get this area completed.
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It would for me were I in the market. I'm conservative in wanting my technology proven over multiple millions of miles and at least several years.

I prefer to keep things as simple as possible on the theory that complex systems are less reliable. Especially 'non-essential' applications like start-stop.

I picked the more complex engine option over the simpler because power. I feel that one was a better tradeoff than would be start-stop.
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Start/Stop is a reason not buy a new vehicle. My 2017 Porsche Boxster had it. Horrible. With some Googling I found a supplier that sold a defeat module for $200. Bought and installed that to eliminate the dreaded start/stop.

Might be better with an automatic transmission than it is with a manual.
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On late model FCA vehicles (Chrysler/Jeep), start/stop is selectable off by the driver. It is then disabled till the next time you start vehicle. If that is too much for you to do every time you drive, there are disable modules that permanently turn it off.

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While my 2016 Transit was in the shop waiting for a part to be manufactured for the navigation system (6 days) - all under my extended warranty - I was provided with a 2019 Escape which has the start/stop "feature". The Escape has a defeat switch. At first I was anoyed by the start/stop but quickly discovered that it was almost transparent to the driver and that it did appear to help the mileage.

I note in my Transit that the MPG display will steadily tick down as I sit in Seattle traffic. I have started shutting down the mighty EB 3.5 on the the I-5 when stopped for minutes (this happens often in Seattle). The van always starts immediately and I doubt the other drivers in the miles of stopped traffic notice.

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I am just short of 100,000 miles on my Transit and will be in the market for a new one probably in 2020. If AWD or 4WD was available from factory, I would order today.

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On late model FCA vehicles (Chrysler/Jeep), start/stop is selectable off by the driver. It is then disabled till the next time you start vehicle. If that is too much for you to do every time you drive, there are disable modules that permanently turn it off.
Unfortunately the Porsche does not have a select start/stop switch. It does have a defeat button. So each time you started the car the next step was to push the defeat button if you remembered. The problem with the Porsche was moving at slow speeds in a parking lot it would start/stop while moving. That provided very expensive mechanical sounds. The defeat module I bought is installed in the wire going to the defeat button. Module retains the last setting.

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It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, much of my time is city driving and I spend a lot of time waiting for lights to turn green.
I would PREFER a select switch, but as this is proven and reliable technology I'm not scared of it being full-time.
I'm more interested in a PHEV Transit; if it doesn't cost an arm and a leg over the base model. $1000 of gas is about 5200 miles at current rates.

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wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, its been out in other vehicles so it isn't new tech. I would be interested in an electric or hydrogen or hybrid model too if it isn't that much more than the gas options. It would have to at least get me 200 miles on a charge...most of my driving is local and within that range...I should say 200 miles in the winter....heard some tesla's range were severely degraded with the cold....

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I wouldn't want start/stop even if seamless it adds extra parts to break down at some point- lot more wear on a starter and some electric motor to keep the A/C running.
If I could buy an electric Transit that would go 300 miles towing the max rating at 65mph and charge in an hour I'd be interested.
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Those stop-start systems drive me nuts. A friend of mine had one on her new BMW and even on a premium automobile like that it was really annoying. I would't want it on my van.
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