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Viper Remote Start and Alarm Install

We had a Viper 5706v remote start and alarm installed in our 2018 Ford Transit. Completed by a local shop. Total install cost with glass break sensor was $750.

Always found spotty info on this topic so wanted to report on the success and experience we had. So far it works quite well. It’s a 2 way system with an LCD screen fob with lots of read out information and programming options. Also includes a 2nd fob that is a basic 1 way.

Functions that work:

Lock/Unlock - also arms/disarms the alarm system. It isn’t connected with the factory key fob though (which I like). So if you lock the van with the Ford key the alarm is not armed. I like this since we can factory lock it at night when we are sleeping inside without worrying about setting the alarm off ourselves by shaking the van or opening a door.

Remote Start - works as expected with good range and clear indicator that the van is running. You can also see the runtime left, restart the runtime before it runs out and check current interior temperature from the fob. If the request to start fails you also receive feedback so you know it’s not running.

Has a function for Smart Start which activates a 3 Hour delay (can be dealer changed) and then checks the interior temp (below 0 degrees or above 100 degrees and/or battery voltage is below 10.5v). If either threshold is met it will automatically start and then repeat the process on the same set window of time. Is handy if living in extreme climates or if the van is parked for extended periods of time.

Might have these settings programmed for shorter window of time and lower high temp to use for running a/c on and off regularly for the dogs. Will need to find out feasibility and think on the option further.

Alarm - works as you would expect. Need to test further on the level of ‘shock’ and glass tampering is required to trigger alarm and adjust as needed. Glass trigger is audio based and taping the glass with a key can set it off. ‘Shock’ (bumping, tampering with or running into it), glass breaking, doors opening or hood opening will set the alarm off. When you disarm the system the fob will give you feedback of anything was triggered while you were away and out of range. If you’re in range the fob will beep and vibrate with the message of the alarm.

Remote - is recharged by a micro usb cable. Is fairly thin and works well. Has lock, unlock, start, auxiliary and function buttons. Function buttons allow alternate features for the other buttons (temp check, smart start, etc) and the Aux button can be dealer programmed to custom features if the system is wired in to do so. Allows up to 4.

Aux - I requested the front windows be connected to the aux button to roll them down and up from the key fob but the shop failed to do so. I don’t think this is a technical limitation but poor communication and follow through on the shops part. May revisit shop to have this done.

I’ll probably make a video on the system and the functions we are using and get a better feel for range as we use it over the coming weeks. So far I’m glad we went this way over the factory 1 way remote start system.

Future updates to come...

Link to Viper Product: https://www.viper.com/car/securityre...e-start-system

*I’m aware that by installing this system that Ford could use it as a way to not honor their warranty in the future if we were having electrical system issues.
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We had a Viper 5706v remote start and alarm installed in our 2018 Ford Transit. Completed by a local shop. Total install cost with glass break sensor was $750.

Always found spotty info on this topic so wanted to report on the success and experience we had. So far it works quite well. Its a 2 way system with an LCD screen fob with lots of read out information and programming options. Also includes a 2nd fob that is a basic 1 way.

Functions that work:

Lock/Unlock - also arms/disarms the alarm system. It isnt connected with the factory key fob though (which I like). So if you lock the van with the Ford key the alarm is not armed. I like this since we can factory lock it at night when we are sleeping inside without worrying about setting the alarm off ourselves by shaking the van or opening a door.

Remote Start - works as expected with good range and clear indicator that the van is running. You can also see the runtime left, restart the runtime before it runs out and check current interior temperature from the fob. If the request to start fails you also receive feedback so you know its not running.

Has a function for Smart Start which activates a 3 Hour delay (can be dealer changed) and then checks the interior temp (below 0 degrees or above 100 degrees and/or battery voltage is below 10.5v). If either threshold is met it will automatically start and then repeat the process on the same set window of time. Is handy if living in extreme climates or if the van is parked for extended periods of time.

Might have these settings programmed for shorter window of time and lower high temp to use for running a/c on and off regularly for the dogs. Will need to find out feasibility and think on the option further.

Alarm - works as you would expect. Need to test further on the level of shock and glass tampering is required to trigger alarm and adjust as needed. Glass trigger is audio based and taping the glass with a key can set it off. Shock (bumping, tampering with or running into it), glass breaking, doors opening or hood opening will set the alarm off. When you disarm the system the fob will give you feedback of anything was triggered while you were away and out of range. If youre in range the fob will beep and vibrate with the message of the alarm.

Remote - is recharged by a micro usb cable. Is fairly thin and works well. Has lock, unlock, start, auxiliary and function buttons. Function buttons allow alternate features for the other buttons (temp check, smart start, etc) and the Aux button can be dealer programmed to custom features if the system is wired in to do so. Allows up to 4.

Aux - I requested the front windows be connected to the aux button to roll them down and up from the key fob but the shop failed to do so. I dont think this is a technical limitation but poor communication and follow through on the shops part. May revisit shop to have this done.

Ill probably make a video on the system and the functions we are using and get a better feel for range as we use it over the coming weeks. So far Im glad we went this way over the factory 1 way remote start system.

Future updates to come...

Link to Viper Product: https://www.viper.com/car/securityre...e-start-system

*Im aware that by installing this system that Ford could use it as a way to not honor their warranty in the future if we were having electrical system issues.
Can you add/did you add the wireless alert/control module to give control alerts over the mobile network? Curious if/how this works, might be parking my van at a remote location unattended on occasion.

If not, anyone do this and have feedback?

Thanks.

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After some time with the system are you still happy? Looking to do something similar.
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After some time with the system are you still happy? Looking to do something similar.
I really like it. It's worked great. Huge win in both winter and summer so far.

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Can you add/did you add the wireless alert/control module to give control alerts over the mobile network? Curious if/how this works, might be parking my van at a remote location unattended on occasion.

If not, anyone do this and have feedback?

Thanks.
Sorry for the delayed response. Don't recall ever getting a notification. Anyhow, we haven't added the cell phone option yet. Heard many mixed reviews on it's performance and the need for a subscription put me off from it at the time.

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I had the viper on my old E350. Loved it! I also had the window option for it too. I would definitely recommend it too. The 2 way remote had about a mile range so it was nice to warm the car up on my way out. If it looked like rain, I could easily hit the button and the windows would go up...that was worth the money right there! I had a few instances where the 2 way triggered and the FOB was going off in my pocket...small siren...I didn't know what it was and looked around and realized it was me....A car with loud bass was parked next to my van and triggered it. a few times I left a store or restaurant to go out and inspect after going off...

the previous owner of my transit installed an alarm and doesn't have the range and 2 way..I miss it, but the manufacturer said to give them the model and I may be able to add that feature.....that is my plan when it warms up is to find the module and see if it can be done. It is wired in like yours too...

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I had a system simular to this and it actually was a good thing that it didn't arm with the factory remote , the reason was that if you were camping you could lock the doors with the factory remote while you were inside the back of the van , doing this enabled me to move around in the back without tripping the alarm.

Then I used the Viper remote when I wanted to arm the alarm and lock the doors.

I used to get a light weight rigid piece of aluminum and cut it to size and polish it and then glue all my remotes to that strip of aluminum to make one big remote. (Amazing goop glue)
I don't have a Viper no more but I posted a picture of my Ford remote start remotes.
This one in the picture was just a quicky, it's not cut straight and not painted , the one I had with my viper I took more time , better quality aluminum , polished cut straight and sanded , painted and three remotes glued to it , Viper remote , factory remote and a third four button remote that controlled my lights and ceiling fan.

I absolutely love these 2 way remote alarm systems but my only gripe is that the designers aren't more innovative and offer more styles even if they cost more that would be fine , for example the systems of today aren't much better then they were 5 years ago , I mean look at the buttons how you have to press so hard to get them to work , IMO they should make very eloquent soft touch buttons to were you barely tap the button and it performs it's function lock/start whatever., then have it in a case like a old flip phone so you don't accidentally start the car.
But there still really super awesome
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I had the Viper remote start with 2-way key fob and cellular option installed in my 2019 Transit. It's the 3rd vehicle I've had the system installed in. All-in with parts and labor by a local shop for $640. I won't go with factory remote start again if I can help it.

Yes, the Viper requires a subscription for the cellular functionality. Either yearly or 3-year blocks of time. Worth it though. I have geo-fencing, speed, and movement notifications, plus location tracking in the one package.

The 1-mile range from the fob is optimistic, and then only under ideal, straight line-of-sight circumstances. Any buildings, hills, trees, flocks of birds, etc. will reduce that range. With the cellular, I can be halfway around the world and start the van, or unlock it remotely if necessary, as long as it has cellular connectivity and my phone has an internet connection.
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Has anyone been able to use the Ford OEM key fob to arm and disarm the alarm? I have a quote from one shop it says they can do this so I don’t have to purchase or carry a separate fob everywhere. But I’m not sure if they’ve looked into Transit specific details, they say it works with most cars. And then I have another shop at 1/3 the price that say they looked it up and it’s not possible. You can arm with the OEM key, but not disarm. The way it works with most car OEM fobs is you press the lock button 3 times to arm, and the unlock button three times to disarm.
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Just had the alarm installed today. Tech was not able to get OEM key fob to lock/unlock vehicle. Would supposedly require firmware update from Viper. I also had inside and outside siren, SmartStart for cellular based remote start and arm/disarm, interior motion sensor. Models were the Viper DS4 (DS4+ not needed as it's a low current starter switch), Viper DS4SU security add on, Viper D9857V remote two way key, Viper VSM550 SmartStart, XpressKit 508D proximity sensor, Directed Electronics 520T Back-Up Battery System. Here's a schematic for your viewing pleasure. Lots of splicing directly into 3 harnesses on top of the fuse panel, the OBD plug, ignition switch, and a power lead.

In addition to the comments above, I am able to arm/disarm and start/stop the vehicle via my cellphone. Supposedly the cell uses 4g/lte/3g, whatever tower/provider is in range.

I really only wanted an alarm, but I had to get remote start to do so. install would have been a lot easier w/o the remote start, but difficult to buy a full featured alarm w/o remote start.

Given the splicing into the main harnesses, I'm happy to have paid an authorized dealer with a lifetime warranty on labor to do this work.
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