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Oh, dear. Well, that's discouraging. Guess I have to wait for my van to appear.

In the meantime I do understand more about what included in the upgrade kit and what the CCP posts look like. So my knowledge has increased a bit from this discussion. Thanks!

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I have the same CCP as Loph917's photo shows. I ordered the inverter, dual batteries and alt. Built June 2017
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i can confirm on my transit which the window sticker lists the dual batteries that it would appear i do NOT have the 3 CCPs unless i'm looking at this picture incorrectly i only see one terminal. my window sticker does not list the heavy duty alternator which makes me go hrrm.
Oh Oh! The forecast is pain...

Here's how mine looks after adding the extra two. I ordered the HD alternator but single AGM. Evidently you need to have Dual batts AND HD alternator.

* - Suggestion: I had to wait about a month when I ordered my extra CCP's from a Ford dealership. You might want to order now to avoid the wait if your situation becomes like mine. The kits are cheap, only about $7.00. Two CCP's come to a kit so don't do what I did and order 2 kits. Even though I didn't accept it after they arrived I was still charged a restocking fee for the one I left behind. bastids!

** - P.S. Not the same dealership I bought my Transit from so don't hold this against the one I've previously praised.
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my window sticker does not list the heavy duty alternator which makes me go hrrm.
I did not have it listed anywhere either, ended up doing a physical inspection of the alternator to verify, then later found out all lwb xlt wagons come with the HD alternator.
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I plan on ordering the 2 AGMs and the HD alternator but I am a bit confused as to what I would use these for. They are power connections that I could run the fan, light, fridge, water pump off of - but - would that be a bad idea to use the starting batteries for that stuff? I was just thinking of using a group D AGM as a house battery and thus, would not need the CCPs. Or so I thought...

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I plan on ordering the 2 AGMs and the HD alternator but I am a bit confused as to what I would use these for. They are power connections that I could run the fan, light, fridge, water pump off of - but - would that be a bad idea to use the starting batteries for that stuff? I was just thinking of using a group D AGM as a house battery and thus, would not need the CCPs. Or so I thought...
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most people use various schemes to allow the transit alternator to charge the house batteries while driving, you need the CCP to make this connection.

myself: i am in the battery to battery charger camp, to accomplish this.

https://baymarinesupply.com/chargers...er-bb1230.html

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I plan on ordering the 2 AGMs and the HD alternator but I am a bit confused as to what I would use these for. They are power connections that I could run the fan, light, fridge, water pump off of - but - would that be a bad idea to use the starting batteries for that stuff? I was just thinking of using a group D AGM as a house battery and thus, would not need the CCPs. Or so I thought...

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Depends on how long you want to remain parked

Simple fridge, passive cooling (no need for a fan to be running, but a vent in the floor helps airflow in the cooling fridge and keeping the van from being too warm at night), toss in some LEDs and charging tablet/phone. You're at 40 AH consumption per day. With dual AGM's you could park for two days.

I like something like Ford Programmable Battery Guard. If battery voltage is too low, it warns you. Once below critical, turn off all non-essential loads, so you have enough reserve to start the vehicle.

Adding an 8D to a simple electrical system is overkill. Key is to keep it simple, you and solar power it is still simple (charge the van batteries). Add a 2KW Inverter, uh, let's add an 8D battery (215 Ah) to your system.
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Did you connect your charger to the CCP, than the charger to your house battery? does the charger work all the time or only when the van is running?
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The Sterling battery to battery charger only runs when the Transit battery is almost fully charged, It shuts itself off when the voltage of the Transit battery drops to 13.3 volts. (The Sterling only runs when the engine is running)

And yes the battery to battery charger hooks up between the transit start battery and the house battery.

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I plan on ordering the 2 AGMs and the HD alternator but I am a bit confused as to what I would use these for. They are power connections that I could run the fan, light, fridge, water pump off of - but - would that be a bad idea to use the starting batteries for that stuff? I was just thinking of using a group D AGM as a house battery and thus, would not need the CCPs. Or so I thought...



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Or... combine the CCPs as per the Morey link above and run it thru a LVD of some sort (Bluesea mLVD is nice) to a fuse panel that is now the "house" 12v fuse panel. With 2 AGMs and the hd alternator, we run MaxxAir roof fan, wall fans, 6 led lights, and numerous usb powered devices for a looooong time before we would trigger the mLVD which would preseve starting juice. In fact... we.have never triggered the LVD.

I think it all boils down to 3 questions

1. How complicated and expensive do you want your elec build to be?
2. How much house power are you likely to really need? I argue that most build out too much power, but hey... this is Merica!
3. How long are you likely to "regularly" be consuming this power level without driving the vehicle (ie: parked)?

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