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Exclamation NO 3.5L EcoBoost engine in 2020 SWB passenger van

Ford has left the 2020 Transit order file open so I have been playing with different buildouts. One thing that is coming up is when you chose the K1C or K1Y SWB passenger van in rear wheel drive model, you CAN NOT GET THE 3.5L EcoBoost engine.

So if you thinking about getting the SWB passenger van, 2019 will be the last year to get the 3.5L EcoBoost engine.

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AND.....when I try to place the 2.0L Diesel in those SAME body styles, it reverts it to the 3.5L PFDI engine.

SO in 2020, the T-150 SWB passenger vans will only have the 3.5L PFDI engine available. NO OPTIONAL ENGINES!!
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Thank you for the update.
If I went with a 2020, it would be with the AWD anyway....and without the ecoboost.

Can to see GCRW when you build them out? Curious if they increased the tow rating.

Also, as has been noted by you and others I believe, that the stop/start is on the eco or diesel and not on the 3.5l PFDI.
Are you able to see that as an "option".

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The Stop/Start will be under the standard features area and I will not see that until the 2020 Ford Transit Order Guide comes out. The information I am getting is from the Ford Ordering System so it will not show me certain standard features. Looking at the 3.5L PFDI engine, it will not tell me anything about the Stop/Start feature.
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CrewVanMan: Can you get a low roof SWB crew van with the Diesel? Also, will the crew van have the front and rear AC along with the interior wall panels and roof that the wagon has?

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I think the CrewVan is one of the new listed body codes and they are not giving out what each code means yet. If you look at the other forum thread where I listed those new codes, I may be able to tell some of them based on equipment but have not seen anything in the codes to indicate which ones would be the CrewVan.

They are showing a 201A Trim code designation so not sure if that is the CrewVan code or not. I tried using the Dual Slider codes to see if that changes the 201A code and it does not do it. Not sure if they have put all of the 2020 codes in the system yet so I will keep playing with it to find out as much as I can.

I think some buyers may be disappointed when we finally get the 2020 Ford Transit Order Guide available and find out some things that might have changed preferences to go with a 2019 instead of a 2020 model and the time to order a 2019 would have already passed by.

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......cut....... One thing that is coming up is when you chose the K1C or K1Y SWB passenger van in rear wheel drive model, you CAN NOT GET THE 3.5L EcoBoost engine.

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Makes sense since V6 EcoBoost is too much power for small passenger van, and it won’t get better fuel economy compared to standard engine. I can’t imagine that combination was ordered often.

A point I made years ago, it’s time Ford consider the 2.3L in-line-4 EcoBoost for Transit. It seems a popular choice on many Ford vehicles today. Unless Ford has determined the naturally aspirated 3.5L V6 is as fuel efficient, in which case the 2.3L EB wouldn’t do much for sales.
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The 2.3L engine is not really considered a high torque engine so I don't see Ford using it in its present form. They are starting to make some special 2.3L I-4 engines that will come from the 2020 Mustang that may possibly be improved on the bottom end to support the heavier Transit vehicle. The 2.3L engine now in the Ford Focus RS would have the most horsepower at 350 hp and torque at 350 lb.ft. It is in such a small vehicle so it would need some modifications for the Transit.

Matt Ford has ordered about 6 of those T-150 MR EcoBoost passenger vans for customers. Most added the Trailer Tow package so the engine would be able to easily handle a full load of passengers as well as towing from the rear.

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Present standard engine is 275 HP at 6,000 RPM, and 260 lb-ft torque at 4,000 RPM.

For those who prefer torque and power at lower RPMs, and perhaps even a little better fuel economy, the 2.3L EB can easily exceed that level of torque.

For example, in Ranger tune, it’s rated 270 HP and 310 lb-ft.

There’s also the Mustang 2.3L EB, and new Explorer as well. Why not on smaller Transits? Is it that hard to imagine when Mercedes is doing a small 4-cylinder turbo gasser in Sprinter?
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This is bad news. I've been waiting for so long on info regarding the 2020 Transit, and was excited to place an order for one early next year. I would be buying exactly what you have described. T-150 SWB low roof 10 passenger van with the 3.5L EcoBoost. I'm bummed...
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