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Shower designs

I’d love to hear from some of you Transit builders with showers. I’ve found some impressive examples on this site. As some have pointed out, with the exception of the bed, the placement of the shower really determines the rest of the design.

@Inkog describes his shower design in great detail (photos below are from his build thread). I want to do the same thing in the same location. My concern is with the size of the available shower pans and my size. 24 x 36 seems to be the standard RV shower pan, but as Inkog noted:

“It's tight for my 6' 220lb frame, but certainly doable. The shower door and tapering rear wall give me about 22" depth at shoulder height . . . I don't think you could go any smaller for avg. size folks. A 28" deep pan would be ideal for me.”
https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/...-wagon-18.html

I have about 20 more pounds and broad shoulders, so worry about squeezing into such tight quarters. I searched for a 26-inch or 28-inch wide pans and haven’t been able to find any. From 24 x 36 they seem to jump to 32 x 32, which might work for a shower, but probably not very good if you want to include the Nature’s Head as I do.

For solutions I’ve thought about going with a shower curtain instead of a door, which might allow my shoulders to push past the sides of the shower pan. I like the looks of a door much better. I also wonder if you could add a 2 or 3-inch wide board along the side of the pan on the door side to extend the door for a bit more shoulder room. This might increase the possibility of leaks unless it was covered somehow.
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I was just reading about this today, A different idea, With a 32x32 inch stainless steel pan.


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Thanks for the kind words. I'm stoked people are getting something out of my build.

You might consider one of these extendable curtain rods:

https://www.rvpartsnation.com/rv-plu...tend-a-shower/

I planned on going that route in addition to the door, but it turned out to be unnecessary for me. It would be nice to a have few extra inches, but in reality you're only in there a few minutes.
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I was just reading about this today, A different idea, With a 32x32 inch stainless steel pan.


https://vanupgrades.com/collections/...an-conversions
That's an interesting option, especially for those who remove or fold up a bed often for multiple uses. I'm looking for something more permanent. As I have tried to design this build my goals have changed a bit -- wonder if that happens to everyone who attempts this. My original thought was to have a small bench seat with nature's head inside and then utilize an outdoor shower using the back doors of the van and a curtain. This would be great for weekend adventures, but I do a lot of cross-country trips (Pennsylvania to Seattle area) and am thinking about a setup that would be comfortable for spending the night in a Walmart or Cabelas parking lot, Ford dealer , etc. Don't actually care as much about the shower as having private potty space. If you're going to give up the space in the van for that, you might as well include a shower.
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Thanks for the kind words. I'm stoked people are getting something out of my build.

You might consider one of these extendable curtain rods:

https://www.rvpartsnation.com/rv-plu...tend-a-shower/

I planned on going that route in addition to the door, but it turned out to be unnecessary for me. It would be nice to a have few extra inches, but in reality you're only in there a few minutes.

That could work well. You might be able locate the mounts outside the door and then pull it out whenever you plan to use a shower and leave the door open.
@Inkog , is this similar to the shower door you used? http://www.newlinebathroom.com/shub-...-62h-p-64.html

Is it a flexible material that follows a track around the inside of the shower space when you open the door, or did you have to provide space outside like a pocket door?

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Orton has a good solution that is a closet that converts into a shower/bathroom. No wasted space for the 99.9% of the time when you're NOT showering. I think the 45-60 seconds it takes to remove boxes and clothes to use it as a shower is worth the extra space. Then the only big space and wallet killer is the water storage, water heating, waste water storage, and pumping system. And the electric system to power it all.

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Orton has a good solution that is a closet that converts into a shower/bathroom. No wasted space for the 99.9% of the time when you're NOT showering. I think the 45-60 seconds it takes to remove boxes and clothes to use it as a shower is worth the extra space. Then the only big space and wallet killer is the water storage, water heating, waste water storage, and pumping system. And the electric system to power it all.
Some thoughts about a inside shower:

1. Huge waste of space if the space is not normally used for another purpose. Mine holds the portapotti, two storage bins and has a shelf to double the counter space. Just remove stuff to convert it to a shower.

2. If you use a spray nozzle then a door or curtain is needed. If you do a Navy shower and use a full flow on/off nozzle a door or curtain is not required. I just put a bath towel down on the floor outside the shower when showering to catch the very little overspray.

3. Any welding shop can make a 14 ga. SS shower pan whatever dimensions you want. They also can locate the drain to miss the frame rail under the floor. I used a 1" OD SS tube for the drain and 1" ID rubber hose for the drain piping.

4. The pan does not require a trap so it can be mounted on the floor. If the gray water tank is under the floor just locate the drain entry on the bottom of the tank. The drain pipe path creates a "trap". I also put a rubber stopper in the drain hole so I so not drop something down the hole.

5. A Sous Vide machine in an Igloo cooler is simple method of heating the shower water electrically. The machine can be set to whatever temperature you want for a shower. All the water in the cooler is at the correct shower water temperature so no plumbing or hot/cold water mixing is required. A 12 volt DC submersible pump is used to get the water out of the tank to the nozzle.

https://www.ortontransit.info/shower

https://www.ortontransit.info/shower-water

The most interesting comments on the U-Tube build video have been about the "stupid" shower method. People do not seem top be able to handle showering using a different method than what we do in a home. The van shower is not like a shower at home but you do get clean.
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That vanupgrades setup is an insanely expensive version of mine, which cost less than $100 and weighs about five pounds. Their price is simply unjustifiable for what you get.

https://msnomersvan.wordpress.com/20...01/the-shower/

We are presently on an extended trip in Alaska and have used the shower numerous times.
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