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Hot Tamale build thread

I was eating Hot Tamales (the candy) on the road trip home with this van. Not sure if the name will stick, but it works for purposes of this build thread.

My new project. I'll post as I make progress. I suspect I'll be picking and choosing ideas from other build threads. Maybe I'll have one or two original ideas to contribute? We'll see.
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"Tuesday is Red's tamale day". Popular pitch, SF Bay Area, 1960s. Wrap tamale in foil, place on engine. A really good tamale. Add huarache sandals and you are ready to RV.
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Sound deadening added. What can I add that no one else has already said/done.

I'll say this though, I'm vaguely suspicious that the sound deadening is worthwhile at all. I hate the added weight (plus expense). People do it, so I did it. But it occurs to me that people are doing it because other people did it… (Where might this have started — perhaps Noico?)

That the van came from the factory with a handful of sound deadening swatches applied to the ceiling suggests that Ford seems to think it is worth doing — sparingly anyway.

Still, it's one of those frustrating things: if I decide months from now, rolling down the road, that I wish I had added sound deadening material it will then be too late ... bare metal walls will already be covered.

So, the compromise is to just use one box (sparingly like Ford). One box added just 27 pounds of weight to the van, cost $66.

Sound deadening are the shiny patches in the photo (courtesy Noico Sound Deadening Mat).

Where did I use it? When I tapped, where it sounded like a timpani. And after the "squeaky wheels" I just used up the rest here and there.
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I'm not a fan of SketchUp for designing my RV build. Why? Two reasons:

1) I find it difficult to visualize how much space the actual dimensions of the design will be — how wide a cabinet will feel, etc.

2) I have attempted to figure out the software on at least three different occasions and found one of us lacking.

I prefer what I call MockUp™. Cheap lumber, foam, cardboard, duct tape, saw horses.

Here is a MockUp™ of a full sized bed and a TruckFridge TB51A.

(Tried rotating the bed to sleep left-to-right and found what others probably already knew, it wasn't going to fly, bed goes longways — but hey, lots of room now for insulation/sideboards.)

From this forum and other sources I had convinced myself I needed a Whynter FM-62DZ fridge, but from a MockUp™ I found it was much larger than I could allow for. So never pulled the trigger on that one — went with the TruckFridge. Good to mock up before you buy?
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Ahh, the other CAD, cardboard assisted design!
I sure do like that red, would have been my choice if I couldn’t get my green.

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Beginning on the floor.

Where the cabinetry, bed, water system, etc. are concerned, I plan on building "stand in" items so that I can take the van out and test these features before committing them to final fit-and-finish.

But there are items (windows definitely, floor to a large degree) where I have to get them right the first time.

As a precautionary beginning to the floor install, shown here in green tape is the inverted-L area you do not want to drill into! (See Ford 2019 Transit Body and Equipment Mounting Manual.)

I mention it because I am trying to avoid using adhesives when I can — I would actually prefer to penetrate the steel floor of the van than slather adhesives all over that will never be able to be removed (holes can be plugged or welded over). I will be drilling holes toinstall rivnuts in order to secure battens on the floor every couple of feet or so as anchors or joists as it were. Where a batten does pass through this zone, I may resort to adhesives just in a few spots to secure the batten to the floor.
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Bottom layer is ˝" R-Tech stuff (polystyrene, I think) to fill the valleys in the floor.

I know that the valleys are not ˝" deep — somewhat less than that. But the polystyrene feels "compressible" to me and so will, I think, crush down when a layer of poly-iso and plywood are pulled down on top of it.
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Bottom layer is ˝" R-Tech stuff (polystyrene, I think) to fill the valleys in the floor.

I know that the valleys are not ˝" deep — somewhat less than that. But the polystyrene feels "compressible" to me and so will, I think, crush down when a layer of poly-iso and plywood are pulled down on top of it.

I did the same with 1/2 poly-iso between the ribs, once the subfloor was put down everything sat nice and flush.



I also bought one sheet of the polystyrene foam board like the one you used, and made two cuts and it looked like it snowed in my yard. I am still finding styrofoam beads everywhere a month later. My yard looked like it was the site of the great foam massacre of 2019. Did you experience this as well, or was it just because my choice of a chainsaw was not the appropriate tool to trim polystyrene?



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Yeah, skip the chainsaw, cuts with less debris when you cut it with a hammer. ;-)

Nah, it made some snow, but the box cutter knife with a new blade made very little. A shop vac took care of what fluttered into the van.

Just an addendum: taped the foam down here and there with foil tape — just enough to keep it in place. No adhesives — yet.
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... shown here in green tape is the inverted-L area you do not want to drill into! (See Ford 2019 Transit Body and Equipment Mounting Manual.)
Thanks for sharing the link to these docs. Found them very informative.

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