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Feedback on blueprint for 3 beds

Hello! I’m new but have been enjoying reading through posts and generating ideas and brainstorms.

I am hopeful that you experienced conversion folk could offer me some feedback and thinking points on my tentative plan.

I am thinking of buying a high roof extended Transit Passenger Wagon to use primarily as a converted Class B camper of sorts. Basically I’m a teacher so I currently take my two young teen/tween boys out for adventures on school breaks. After a dramatic race away from a wind storm with 100 mph gusts and tornado warnings this spring pulling my canvas pop-up, I’ve been exploring options for something hardsided but simple for trips. We don’t usually sit in one place very long, preferring to spend 2-3 nights somewhere at the most and making lots of exploration side trips. We don’t usually hang out in campsites.

My goal is to keep it as simple as possible. No black tanks, no slides, no sway bars, etc. I want beds, a spot to stash the luggable loo we use in the pop up overnight and plenty of storage space for clothes, gear, food and water.

I do not want a full kitchen, nor do I have room for one. We currently eat out half of the time we are adventuring in adorable local hot spots. The rest of the time we do simple fare and I have Dutch ovens and propane stove equipment that can travel in the “garage” and come out to cook in a campsite.

This “camper” is for vacations and adventures, not full time living, so I don’t need extensive power, plumbing or refrigerators.

Will those of you with experience check out my attached sketch to see if my plan is even remotely feasible?

It’s the best way I can think to fit three separate beds in a passenger wagon so that I have plenty of seatbelts and lights. (Boys are going to be tall and narrow - dad is 6’5”. I would take the platform as I’m only 5’9”)

I’d love your thoughts, especially if this plan is totally unfeasible and I need to go back to the drawing board.
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Suggest you get some large pieces of cardboard and build it with cardboard.

With 1 1/2" of insulation covered with 3/16" indoor outdoor carpet in the window indents, I have a bed length of 73 1/2" at about 30" off the floor.

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If you plan to mount the crosswise bed at about the height of the side window's bottom, I suspect there will not be enough height for the teen beds.

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How wide are the beds going to be? You will have about 60-65" of width below the windows to work with. A 14" wide gap between them only gives you a 30" wide bed. Standard twins are 39" wide. Could you do a queen or full on the driver's side and have them sleep head to toe? then you could have a bit more bed space over there. Also, in a high roof, I have seen queen size bunk beds allowing for a lot of storage underneath the bottom bunk.

Check out https://www.buyawandervan.com/galler...wf9lqv5zwovmj4

They have some pics over there that might help.
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From your sketch, it appears you're expecting to sleep crosswise on the upper bunk. At 5'9", I'm fairly sure there won't be enough room for you to sleep that direction. MAYBE if you sleep at an angle -- you'd need to measure A and B to calculate C.


You could potentially make the mattress wider and sleep North to South, but then the people down below will have to go spelunking to get to their beds. Still, that's the only way I can see three people > 5'8" fitting in there.
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Thanks for the feedback! I was right to think y’all would have good insight on how it might be done (or not done). Does anyone over 5’8 sleep comfortably E->W at window level? I would think having roughly a 6’ bed would be a decent fit, but maybe not. Hmmmmm
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Thanks for the feedback! I was right to think y’all would have good insight on how it might be done (or not done). Does anyone over 5’8 sleep comfortably E->W at window level? I would think having roughly a 6’ bed would be a decent fit, but maybe not. Hmmmmm
I am 5'-10" and sleep fine across back of the van. The trick is not to completely fill the window indents with insulation. If you sleep on your stomach then you are longer than your height. I measure 73 1/2" from top of head to tip of my toes. Lay down on a floor and have someone measure your length.

I also have no problem sleeping on a 27" wide bed platform. The bed design consists of four 27" wide "Murphy" style bed panels. They are stored vertically against the van walls and fold down to sit on top of the table to create the bed platform. Two back ones down for one person and all four down for two people. A double bed is 54" wide.

If you sleep on your stomach, another trick is to keep the mattress shorter. Leave a gap between the mattress and the wall so your toes can drop down into the slot instead of sticking straight out.

https://www.ortontransit.info/bed-table

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You could add flares and easily sleep E-W if you went with a cargo van. Just something to think about. I thought I heard the 2020 transit cargo will have a crew option with a back seat.

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It looks doable to me, especially if you can design your bunk to fold up like Ortons during the day. Since it is for camping vs living you can go for narrow bunks. Old school single instead of twin.

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"I would take the platform as I’m only 5’9”" - sigh... only 5'9"?

As @orton says, use 27" wide beds. They're kids - they won't know the difference.

Make your EW bed the full twin width - orton is fine with 27" but I found it a little less than ideal. Since it's up top, you can make it wide. Your bed is going to reduce air space over their beds but since it's not covering up their upper bodies, they can live with it - again, they're teens.

I'm 5'9" with an EW bed. 1" foam insulation in the window wells. It works.

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