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Bed Design Ideas please

I've been all over this forum for 2 years now, thank you everyone for the wealth of information!
I'm just a few short weeks from picking up our van at Matt Ford, very excited. I have a million build/design ideas swimming around my head. Despite living in the best mountain bike destination in the US , we still want to chase new trails throughout N. America. On to my question.

The van is long/tall T250. I can not sleep E/W. We need to keep mountain bikes inside, so the bed must be raised. In my mind, much of the layout depends on the bed position and design.
I'm thinking a raised, full size, "sofa bed". A split somewhere near the middle in both the frame and upholstered mattress to allow us to push back the bed, have the back tilt up and form a sofa ... 36" or so off the deck. This could expose a small table with bench seating, of course with storage under.
Everything needs to lock in both positions, probably make the frame out of aluminum, use HDPE or something similar for the slides, would really like not to require access to the rear to change positions ... and simple in design.

I have not seen a design like this and am looking for ideas and suggestions. Thank you in advance!

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Our's is a mid-roof but these photos might give you some ideas of how to adapt something to fit you needs. The 26 inch undermount shelf slides have a 155 lb load rating per pair. Perhaps someone will post photos of their underbed pullout bike storage.
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RB roll-over dinette or couch is a good bolt-in system, they fold up flat to the wall when not used as seating or bed. But, no room for bikes underneath. Moving the whole thing forward, right behind the front seats, allows a "garage" space in the back. You can't have the bikes inside AND sit at the same time if you have the bed/couch all the way in the back. A lot more space can be made by taking the wheels off your bikes and lowering the seatpost, but some people don't want to spend 5min putting their bike back together when they get to the trailhead. I think a couple bikes would fit cross-ways in the back 24-30" of the van; take off front wheel and turn bars sideways. Maybe make a 30" "garage" in back that is all waterproof to contain dirt and mud, and double as a shower stall?

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How many people are you traveling with, or need to accommodate?
Only our front seats - both on swivels are the seats we use.
If we need to host others it is at a camping table outside the van.
Our bed is fixed and raised and runs from the back doors to the C pillar.
To not have to put away the bed every morning for breakfast etc turned out a big plus.
One person can get ready, make breakfast etc.
The bed has enough room to sit upright and a lot of room underneath: a garage with two bikes, fresh water tank, battery - electronics, porta potti, stove - drawer, a lot of other storage and the fridge. The bikes have the front wheels removed.
Except for the sink with cabinets underneath along the wall behind the driver the room behind the front seats up to the C-pillar is open floor area.
The open space allows flexible use like a quick transport of both bikes with wheels mounted between bike trails.

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Our's is a mid-roof but these photos might give you some ideas of how to adapt something to fit you needs. The 26 inch undermount shelf slides have a 155 lb load rating per pair. Perhaps someone will post photos of their underbed pullout bike storage.
With all of that exposed steel no wonder you are having condensation and mildew problems.
no one else likes this.

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RB roll-over dinette or couch is a good bolt-in system, they fold up flat to the wall when not used as seating or bed. But, no room for bikes underneath. Moving the whole thing forward, right behind the front seats, allows a "garage" space in the back. You can't have the bikes inside AND sit at the same time if you have the bed/couch all the way in the back. A lot more space can be made by taking the wheels off your bikes and lowering the seatpost, but some people don't want to spend 5min putting their bike back together when they get to the trailhead. I think a couple bikes would fit cross-ways in the back 24-30" of the van; take off front wheel and turn bars sideways. Maybe make a 30" "garage" in back that is all waterproof to contain dirt and mud, and double as a shower stall?
I really want the bed in back, but maybe that is not necessary.
Front tires will come off, dropper post all the way down. With my 36" inseam, there is no other way.
I have been thinking about running the bikes E/W across the back. Not sure it changes the issue for me, but may simplify some things. Shower will be outside, just don't want to mess with something inside.
Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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Our's is a mid-roof but these photos might give you some ideas of how to adapt something to fit you needs. The 26 inch undermount shelf slides have a 155 lb load rating per pair. Perhaps someone will post photos of their underbed pullout bike storage.
That is a lot like I am thinking, just going N/S. Thanks for the pictures.

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How many people are you traveling with, or need to accommodate?
Only our front seats - both on swivels are the seats we use.
If we need to host others it is at a camping table outside the van.
Our bed is fixed and raised and runs from the back doors to the C pillar.
To not have to put away the bed every morning for breakfast etc turned out a big plus.
One person can get ready, make breakfast etc.
The bed has enough room to sit upright and a lot of room underneath: a garage with two bikes, fresh water tank, battery - electronics, porta potti, stove - drawer, a lot of other storage and the fridge. The bikes have the front wheels removed.
Except for the sink with cabinets underneath along the wall behind the driver the room behind the front seats up to the C-pillar is open floor area.
The open space allows flexible use like a quick transport of both bikes with wheels mounted between bike trails.
It is just the Mrs. and myself, plus 25 lb dog.
I would rather not put the bed away each day either, and would rather hosts guests outside if weather permits. I'm looking at the "sofa bed" capability as something to be available, but not necessarily used all that often.
I've already order the hard to get Scopema swivel for the passenger side, and would install on the driver's side if my final design allows it. (Driver's side is much easier to get)
Maybe the thing to do is design in such a way as to have seating for 4 incorporate both drivers seats, thanks.
Do you have any pictures of your layout? If your van is long, not extended, does the bed fit completely behind the slider?

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With all of that exposed steel no wonder you are having condensation and mildew problems.
Since we are not at all acquainted with each other I can only infer that you reference the following post.

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After well over two hundred nights spent in the van with the current configuration I hardly consider the single occurrence of noticing the very early stages of mildew (no mold) that was easily removed from under a foam mattress with a light mist of white vinegar and the wipe of a sponge as "having condensation and mildew problems".

After talking with the locals it seems to be common in the costal Southeast US when the humidity is 90%-100% daily for extended periods.

Nevertheless, your concern is noted and hopefully it will be a reminder for others who may have added 4-5 sets of extended drawer slides and be considering extended travel in the more muggy environs. With that I am reminded to update my ignore list.

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Our bed is fixed and raised and runs from the back doors to the C pillar ... The bed has enough room to sit upright and a lot of room underneath: a garage with two bikes.... The bikes have the front wheels removed.
This sounds exactly like what I would like to accomplish!
Is your van a HR? Can you post some additional details?

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