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A little over a week ago I ordered a Silver 2018 350 SRW Extended High Roof Cargo 3.5L EB with Dual Windowed Sliders from Matt Ford. Projected delivery around Labor Day. The plan is for a full camper conversion in my free time over the course of about a year. I've built out an overland camp trailer on a M416 frame and a boondocking solar pop-up in my day, so I have a bit of experience coming into the project. I'm in the process of selling my current rig, a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and a built-out 2014 pop-up to help fund the project.

I hadn't planned on starting a build thread quite yet, but what the ****, I guess it will be a good place to contain my ramblings while I wait impatiently. (I need the posts to use the forum anyway)

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W3U0 TRANSIT 350 HR VAN
148" WHEELBASE
INGOT SILVER METALLIC
CLOTH
CHARCOAL
PREFERRED EQUIPMENT PKG.101A
XL TRIM
MANUAL AIR CONDITIONER
3.5L GTDI V6 ENGINE
6-SPD AUTO SELECT SHIFT TR
235/65R16 BSW ALL-SEASON
3.31 LIMITED SLIP AXLE X3L
FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET
FIXED PASS/DRV DOOR GLASS
AUTOLAMP W/RAIN SENSING WIPERS
9500# GVWR PACKAGE
CHARCOAL CLOTH 10WAY PWR HEAT
KEYLESS ENTRY PAD
TRAILER TOW PACKAGE
TRAILER WIRING PROVISIONS
MODIFIED VEHICLE WIRING PKG
REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER
CRUISE CONTROL
HEAVY DUTY ALTERNATOR
DUAL HEAVY DUTY BATTERIES
STYLED ALUMINUM WHEEL
HIGH CAPACITY UPFIT SWITCHES
TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER
REMOTE START
KEYS 2 ADDITIONAL
AUX FUSE PANEL
4X FRONT SPEAKERS FULL RANGE
PRIVACY GLASS
LOAD AREA PROTECTION PKG
FLOOR COVERING VINYL COMPLETE

MSRP - TOTAL BASE AND OPTIONS $49620
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I like the van name!


I'm looking forward to your plans.


I have my "crew seating" currently in place, but for two people road trips, there will be a bathroom in place. Road trip with stinky kids,
four seats.
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I like the van name!


I'm looking forward to your plans.


I have my "crew seating" currently in place, but for two people road trips, there will be a bathroom in place. Road trip with stinky kids,
four seats.
Thanks! A crew seat will be my first mod. I just ordered a 36" XLT 2 Passenger Seat in charcoal from CrewVanMan for pickup in KC when I take delivery.

I've seen your dual slider around here. How do you like it? I went back and forth over it for several weeks before biting the bullet. What is your clearance from the end of the seat to the opposite wall/door?

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My build plans are still in flux, but I have a good grasp on a majority of the major stuff. Primary use will be off-grid camping and travel.

Utilities:
~400W solar with ~400AH of house battery.
Compositing toilet. No black tank.
Portable 5-10gal fresh and grey water jugs w/ provisions to store about 40 gallons total.

I'm still on the fence about propane for heat and hot water. I'm worried about insurance coverage. TBD
I'd like AC, but don't want to run a noisy, large and/or expensive generator. I have a dog to keep cool. I wish someone would come up with a AC unit that would run reliably off a single Honda 2000i or a 2000w inverter! I'll probably go for 2 Maxxair fans for now.

Interior:
Removable 2nd row seating.
E-W lofted queen bed, with garage beneath for bikes and/or kayak (yes, a kayak).
Driver and passenger swivels.
Cork floors
Ikea Cabinets. I've been contemplating this a lot. I like the idea of just modifying well built cabinets for a nice clean look. They have everything I'd need available off-the-shelf (forgive the pun). Including 30" x 15" x 15" overheads. They come unassembled for easy modification.

Exterior:
8020 rack for solar and kayaks.
Rear door ladder
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You can see the crew seating is offset to the side. This leaves 9' behind the seats, 13' behind the passenger seat. Glad I ordered an HR-EL



My son commented having that other foot well drop down is odd. I'll have a solid floor, but a power step to make it easier for ingress on that side. Debating leaving the footwell, but have a portion that slides forward (footrest on long trips) but other tucks back when I need that footwell.


My overheads I want to keep to 12" deep, 15" high, by the length of the bed. Two beds that flip up on the walls leaving foot space between them. My needs/use will change week to week, so flexibility is vital. House battery (8D AGM 255 AH) and Inverter (2000 Watt Outback) need to tuck under the floor. Keeps back floor clear.



Roof AC will be on 13500 BTU. To run is 1500Watts, but you have to size inverter for 3x that load due to starting load. The trick is to use a "soft start" on the AC compressor. That battery could power the AC for thirty to sixty minutes. Once underway think duty cycle (i.e., run ac 5minutes, off 5 minutes) which will help cool the rear. Panel van means fewer windows, so less interior heating. Less interior heat, the less you need to run the AC.
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You can see the crew seating is offset to the side. This leaves 9' behind the seats, 13' behind the passenger seat. Glad I ordered an HR-EL

Great info, thanks!

Sorry, I didn't phrase my question on seat clearance very well at all. I'm curious about the clearance from starboard edge of your 2nd row seat to the starboard slider door.
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Great info, thanks!

Sorry, I didn't phrase my question on seat clearance very well at all. I'm curious about the clearance from starboard edge of your 2nd row seat to the starboard slider door.

I have that 36" wide seat mounted to the far left. Maybe less than an inch to the closed door.


68" width at the 24" height on the interior (this tapers down to 64" width at 60" height, btw). So that leaves about 32" from the edge of the seat to the right side sliding door.



I'm planning on keep the galley on that side to only 16" depth, with a tapered front nose (just enough room for paper towels and a trash can) to allo passage to the back.
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I have that 36" wide seat mounted to the far left. Maybe less than an inch to the closed door.


68" width at the 24" height on the interior (this tapers down to 64" width at 60" height, btw). So that leaves about 32" from the edge of the seat to the right side sliding door.



I'm planning on keep the galley on that side to only 16" depth, with a tapered front nose (just enough room for paper towels and a trash can) to allo passage to the back.
Thanks Tom, that confirms my guestimates.



I made significant progress on my build-out today by finally selling my pop-up! It went to a sweet young girl in OH who loves to camp with her young kids and quickly outgrew their tiny skamp trailer. She got a great deal on a great camper that they'll enjoy for years to come, and I got a significant hunk of change for my new project

Next up is selling my 2011 Jeep Rubicon. Let me know if your interested

~13 weeks until delivery.
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My VIN was assigned a few days ago. I should be getting a solid build date anytime.

*updated* Here is my current plan based on a whole lot of guesstimates and assumptions.
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Hope to have your build DATE this week on your HR Dual Sliding Door van.
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