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Sketchup model for 2017 LB High Roof?

In the planing stages for our build and the paper and pen method isn't quite enough. Decided I needed a 3D view to figure out how to fit in a fixed bed, shower, compost toilet, 2 burner stove with small oven, fridge, room for 2 mountain bikes, an inflatable kayak, and some counter space. OR it may be needed to show my hubby that all these things are just not possible when he is over 6 feet tall.
I have search this forum with no luck on this model. Watched some youtube videos on how to use sketchup, but since we don't have a van yet to measure properly, I would like to find a file that is already created for a 2017 Long LB with High roof.
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but since we don't have a van yet to measure properly
I spent multiple hours inside vans at the dealer before my van was delivered. Had all the 2D CAD layout drawings completed before van arrived.

The other approach is to use cardboard to "build" a conversion to visualize the configuration.

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Thanks Orton. When my hubby builds he will definitely want to use cardboard layouts before cutting/installing anything for sure.
For now I want a fairly good idea of what we are able to fit, and have found so many different measurements on the web. We did some measurements at the dealer but not enough for a good model, and we are outside of the city, so in the meantime hoping to use SketchUp (or similar free tool, if anyone has suggestions) to visualize what is possible. Have found models on 3Dwarehouse, but all seem to be older models.
Orton, I just located your Orton Transit Van website. Amazing information. Love the Changes page - great to know what people want to change, and glad to hear you are happy with the Transit (we have more sprinters available for purchase, but too far to a dealership).
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You can use the virtual builder on Sportsmobile.com to get some general ideas and views. It's clunky and fairly general but I do enjoy using it to try different things and help others visualize what I'm imagining with a build.

https://sportsmobile.com/design-info/

It's free and you can save your ideas.
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Thanks 86Scotty, I will take a look for sure.
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One other possibility is dolls! 1/6 scale (my daughter has one, but her doll scaled to her 5'2" height, not my 6'3"). Makes it handy if you have a table, dresser, etc. of that same scale. Oh, she is now 23. Still a handy scale!

Two by Four blocks of wood are 1.5" x 3.5". Double stacked gives me a quick kitchen galley of 18" deep x 42" tall Cutting those four boards all to 6" long showed my 3' long kitchen galley could be longer.

Sportsmobile DYO is a great tool. A pain in the rear to figure the tool out, but long body "LB" is what represents an Extended Length Ford. Prices are interesting to not, gives a good idea betweenDIY and Turnkey (not everyone has time nor skills for DIY, and I like their finish outs)

So taking my "doll cutouts" and messing with floor plan comes up with the attached diagram.

Now that I have the van, I'll do Cardboard Aided Design to mock up real sizes for my wife to understand. She needs a flush toilet (I'll use a canister style) and wants an indoor shower (quick rinse, lather, rinse). Both are fine with an extended length, but I'd prefer to keep everything open and have that in the back of the van. She loves this style floor plan. It doesn't matter what you think is perfect; it will change after a few road trips. So I plan to keep it very modular.

Note about composting toilets, great in a dry climate and I think would be fine for me. My wife had 3/4 of her colon removed so not the best choice for her. Canister toilets have a water compartment that rinses the bowl when you flush (which she really would like) but are known for the worst gawd awful smell when dumping. I don't have a normal sense of smell, so that doesn't bother me. Hence I suspect canister will work fine for me and no black water tank.
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that is a lot to stuff in a van. i tried several things to do layout but in the end what worked best for me was excel (i know that is strange). i attached a blank version of the one i did for my drw extended lwb van (you could open this in google sheets). with one inch boxes i was able to quickly try a lot of things and see what i liked. i played with sketchup but it looked pretty onerous for something this simple. i made dozens of copies of this on the sheet and kept pruning the bad ideas until i found something i liked. it ended up looking like this.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hqy52sqj2u...yout.xlsx?dl=0


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Of course if you are old enough a drawing board, paper, pencil, eraser and scale will work. Very easy to save your work and compare one layout to another. The drawing board never crashes or be contaminated with a virus. Never lose your work due to a power outage.

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Of course if you are old enough a drawing board, paper, pencil, eraser and scale will work. Very easy to save your work and compare one layout to another. The drawing board never crashes or be contaminated with a virus. Never lose your work due to a power outage.
with thousands of dollars worth of computer equipment, networks, raid arrays and ups's i have nearly matched the resolution, storage capacity, pen interface and persistence of a pad of paper. oh wait, my computer needs to do an upgrade....

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I guess I am just too visual, and I have had a hard time conveying my layout ideas to my hubby. Building different things over the years, we have discovered that our brains think differently! Tried many approaches for 2D for a couple years now and just can't get a sense of how crowded the space will be with 2D. Have tried the Excel approach too, thanks for sharing indygreg - I am comfortable in Excel, but having same issue with visualization.

Now that we are going to do this for real, I feel I need to use something in 3D. Willing to put the time into learning how to use Sketchup or similar.

Have a rough layout idea using Sportsmobile attached, but would really like to find the detailed internal measurements to add into SketchUp to be able to lay things out properly. Want to see the curvature and figure out where to put things like water tank, batteries, etc.

Note about sportsmobile layout attached - Raised bed would go all the way to the back - hubby too tall to sleep sideways.
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