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Thoughts on self driving vans

i read an article the other day that basically asserted that when self driving gets here, RV's will be the ultimate vehicle. it got me thinking, if we really think that 10-15 years from now fully autonomous vehicles will be common why would anyone want to own anything other than a transit/sprinter conversion? i am talking about what i think they call level 4 self driving meaning that you leave the driving to the vehicle. i assume we won't really see big consumer uptake on vehicles with no steering wheels, etc (i guess i would prefer to be able to back it in right where i want it or pull it onto a lift for service but who knows). but anyway, if i am heading cross country and i on the interstate for 10 hours with nothing to do, would i want to be sitting behind the wheel of a car? just sitting there wishing you werent trapped in a car all day? self driving sedans seem like a waste. obviously there isn't much purpose in a self driving sports car. The author of the article said RV's would be awesome self drivers but most rv's are huge.

imagine a custom van as a self driver. i drive my transit most days as my daily driver. i have a camaro sitting there and for some reason i find myself taking the van. while my wife in in the grocery i am able to get out from behind the wheel and do what i want. a self driving custom van could go anywhere, fit in a regular parking spot and when you are on a long trip you would be free to watch tv, get some food, sleep or just stretch out in a comfortable spot.

i have always said i can't imagine trusting a car to drive me (i work in the computer industry) but you know if they really get this stuff working - at least on the highway - i think i could really get behind the idea. my van is a 2017 so maybe The Ark II will be a whole different experience...

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I'm not sure if a campervan will be the "ultimate vehicle" for the vast majority, but those of us who already have such a thing for various reasons will be living a life of luxury in the interstate autonomous lane. It will be like riding in a personal train car. Obviously you'd want something you can manually drive, because nearly all the places worth going require traversing lonely dirt roads of dubious quality.

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I'm not sure if a campervan will be the "ultimate vehicle" for the vast majority, but those of us who already have such a thing for various reasons will be living a life of luxury in the interstate autonomous lane. It will be like riding in a personal train car. Obviously you'd want something you can manually drive, because nearly all the places worth going require traversing lonely dirt roads of dubious quality.
i'm sticking with my ultimate vehicle theory i am not sure they will all be campervans but a vehicle big enough to walk around in that might be customized in a number of ways. my build for instance is not at all for camping.

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Europe has them already, except they call them trains. You can get up, walk around, eat, sleep, meet cool people, and occasionally get pick pocketed. When I was a youngster I had my backpack and an unlimited train pass for 4 months. Many nights rest was on the train. Travel and lodging all in one. Nothing like waking up in a new city.

So yeah, a self driving camper van would be great for long hauls and travel. In the meantime, we all have to settle for finding a partner who’s driving we trust enough to unbuckle.
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LOL. i really get you on this. i am actually a cto for a computer company and i have laughed for years about the thought of cars pulling over because they needed to download the latest version of acrobat reader. i am not understanding the idea that on the whole you could make self driving cars have less accidents than people but the issue is can you make them have less accidents than me? and when they do, who is to blame?
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Thats going to be a terrorists dream, and 10,000 lb unmanned vehicle that can kill a crowd of people in seconds.
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First fatal accident. Dave does a pretty good job of explaining what might have happened, but something is seriously wrong with the system just failed.


In 1986 we were testing early ABS systems. We had redundant processers, different hardware different code; everything set up for fail-safe. We blew out front and rear tires during a customer demo. It was oh sh!t moment. Everything failed, as there was something minor overlooked. It was beta, but life happens.

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i am no fan of self driving vehicles but i read the police report, that woman crossed the street 200 feet from the crosswalk and 200 feet from the nearest street light as well
the chances of of a driverless car and a driven car hitting her were about equal.

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I fixed our oven yesterday when its computer got confused. Turned the circuit breaker off and then back on. It rebooted the computer so now oven works. Do the same when I get virus message on the computer screen. Pull the plug on the computer. So riding in an autonomous car should not present any problems. After an accident or malfunction yell at the thing to stop and simply disconnect its battery.
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