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The difference may be the 'power seat'?
For my standard type seats, both driver and passenger, I do NOT need to open the door to swivel.

1. lower handbrake (only needed for driver side seat).
2. straighten backside seat to clear the pillar.
3. slide seat forward, unlock and swivel.
Slide forward far enough that it the front just clears the center console, the backside will then clear the door.

In our layout we definitely need use both seats each time we camp - have lunch etc.
The front seats are the only 'camper' seats and therefore we required that both could swivel.
This saves us a lot of room we would otherwise need for a secondary seating in the back.

The pictures show the seat track hitting the door. To me, both manual and power seats would have the same length seat tracks. Shortening the track would limit the amount of seat travel IMO.

@Inkog , do you have power seats?

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The pictures show the seat track hitting the door. To me, both manual and power seats would have the same length seat tracks. Shortening the track would limit the amount of seat travel IMO.

@Inkog , do you have power seats?

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I do have power seats, but my rail just clears in the most forward position. The seat travel on powered seats is dictated by the threaded rod as seen in @DaveInSeattle 's last posted pics. One could trim 3/4" to 1" off the rear rail for clearance without affecting travel or integrity of the mounting points. If you look at the rails they are just cut from longer stock. The through hole pattern could be off by 1". I suspect that although the rails are cut to a specific length, the hole pattern shifts in relation. So some of us have just enough clearance, and others no so much.
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... So some of us have just enough clearance, and others no so much.
I have scopema swivels installed on both driver's and passenger's side, with the non-power seat. On the passenger side I can swivel the seat with the passenger door closed, fully just as Sierra Hiker describes in post#70. On the driver's side when swiveling, it just barely grazes the driver door trim so slightly; Not sure for the explanation of the difference. I'm guessing filing 1/8" off the back metal corners of the driver's side seat track would be more than enough to make the driver's side swivel like the passenger side. This 1/8" shortening of the seat track would be of structurally non-consequential.
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My passenger side Scopema should arrive tomorrow from NomadVans. I'll report back on it's clearance once I get it installed.
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I do have power seats, but my rail just clears in the most forward position. The seat travel on powered seats is dictated by the threaded rod as seen in @DaveInSeattle 's last posted pics. One could trim 3/4" to 1" off the rear rail for clearance without affecting travel or integrity of the mounting points. If you look at the rails they are just cut from longer stock. The through hole pattern could be off by 1". I suspect that although the rails are cut to a specific length, the hole pattern shifts in relation. So some of us have just enough clearance, and others no so much.
Thanks for the update, I appreciate it.
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Got my Scopema passenger swivel this week from NomadVanz and looking at the install.
Given the cost of the swivel I'm happy to find a torque wrench to do it right, but I can't find recommended torque settings for the fasteners. Does anybody know what they use on the OEM screws?

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Got my Scopema passenger swivel this week from NomadVanz and looking at the install.
Given the cost of the swivel I'm happy to find a torque wrench to do it right, but I can't find recommended torque settings for the fasteners. Does anybody know what they use on the OEM screws?
Are you in the United States? Did you have to pay any duties to get it into the US?

I have been looking for one available here in the US but canít find one.
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Are you in the United States? Did you have to pay any duties to get it into the US?

It was 500 CAD for the seat and 74 CAD for shipping to California. I didn't see any customs fees listed, but there was a commercial invoice on there with the correct price.

I ordered when NomadVanz was out of stock but it arrived right when they said it would.


The swivel seems totally solid. The lack of good installation information is kind of a bummer for something safety critical. The part that is replaced by the swivel appears to be W504764-S303 (Seat Track Screw).

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Does anybody know what they use on the OEM screws?
You can google standard torque values that are based on the size of the bolt.
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