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I have the gasoline version of the Espar. When it's running it's barely audible most of the time. It's mounted directly under my bunk. If it's near 0° F it'll be a LITTLE bit louder as it pumps out more heat.

BTW I have the B1 model which is the lowest output model they made. I'm not even sure if they still make it. I got it from eBay for a great price (new, old stock).
If I had a B4 or B6 I would imagine it would hardly ever get above its lowest power output. I keep the van at around 64° normally. That's my comfort zone.

Espar is more expensive than Webasto but you get what you pay for.

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i wish the heater companies would provide a dB rating. though i suppose that would be hard to measure uniformly. (internal? external? where's it mounted? etc)

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Believe me -- I/we have considered all those aspects. We have a heated mattress pad on our house bed, and it's great, but it sort of heats the wrong side of your body -- when you're cold, and want a shot of heat, it's usually on top, not on the mattress side. And I'd rather not have to go to balaclava extremes. And I'm certain my wife doesn't want to either! She's a hardy camper, but we got the van to be comfortable in.

I'm definitely nervous about the noise from the Webasto, but I think there's no way to know without just going for it. (Unless someone in New England has one installed that I can listen to!

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If I used the van in the snow or other cold weather applications and wanted a heater, I would consider the under the floor Propex propane fueled heater. Suspect that it would be more reliable than a diesel heater because propane burns cleaner than diesel. I have no experience with a Propex.

I understand the balaclava bit. I wonder if I could convince my wife to wear it. Not exactly attractive.

The 12 volt heating pad works very well for me. Have not been below about 25 degrees so still have to learn how it works at lower temperatures.

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Here is what happens when your Ford Service shop does not know how to hoist a Transit!


Curbside rear "Jack point"


Curbside front "Jack point"


Driver front "Jack point"


Driver rear "Jack point"

This happened when I took it in for an oil change and tire rotation last November. The technician put it on a standard lift hoist with no clue about the Transit's Jack points. It was later transferred to a drive-on lift hoist with the proper lift Jacks normally used for the Transit.

I was not told about the damage. I discovered it this past weekend when under my van puttering. The dealership GM was most apologetic when I emailed him photos of the damage. He will have it repaired when I return north in the spring.

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Here is what happens when your Ford Service shop does not know how to hoist a Transit!

This happened when I took it in for an oil change and tire rotation last November. The technician put it on a standard lift hoist with no clue about the Transit's Jack points. It was later transferred to a drive-on lift hoist with the proper lift Jack's normally used for the Transit.

I was not told about the damage. I discovered it this past weekend when under my van puttering. The dealership GM was most apologetic when I emailed him photos of the damage. He will have it repaired when I return north in the spring.

What can I say that hasn't been said already on this long and storied thread. 🤔
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Why is this even surprising? The last place in world you would want to work on your vehicle is a dealership. Dealer mechanics are careless idiots. They have been for the 40+ years I've been driving and I see no reason to expect this to change in my lifetime.
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