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post #181 of 184 (permalink) Old 09-09-2016, 07:18:PM
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That's an interesting way of thinking of it.

So, by this definition, ground clearance is simply the distance between the ground and the lowest point on the rig? Like the diff?

I have a 6" suspension lift on my E350 (a ujor lift I installed myself). While the lowest point of the vehicle (the diff) wasn't raised with this lift, everything else was. I gained all sorts of ground clearance everywhere except the axles: my rockers, frame, rear bumper, trans crossmember, fuel tank, etc. all have 6" more ground clearance than before the lift. Suspension lifts don't just make room for bigger tires, they also raise the rest of the vehicle, which gives you more ground clearance all over. The lowest point of the van is still the same distance from the ground, but there's more ground clearance on 99% of the van. I'd gladly take an extra 2" of clearance at the rocker panels than at the lowest point (the diff).

I hope this doesn't come off as confrontational, I don't want to argue. I've just never heard of ground clearance being explained this way, and I'm trying to understand what people mean when they say the 2" quigley lift gives no extra ground clearance.If they're saying that the lowest point (diff) is still the lowest point after the lift, then I agree. That's true of all lifts. However, there's tons more ground clearance everywhere else, which is why I'm confused. I haven't looked at the quigley lift in enough detail to know exactly how the lift is done (blocks in the rear? New leaf springs? Bigger shackles? Longer coils up front? Spacers? Stiffer springs?). However, I assume that the roof, rockers, belly, bumpers, and everything except the rear axle and the front control arms sit 2" higher. Is that correct?

I've been wheeling and lifting 4x4 rigs for years, and the last thing I hit is the diff, because I put my wheels on top of the obstacle, rather than straddling them. So to me, the minimum ground clearance at diff is far less important than the distance of the rockers and at the bumpers and the belly from the ground.

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Yes ground clearance at the diffs is the only point I was making. If you worked for a magazine like truck trend and had to put a value or number for ground clearance it would be at the diff(s) I would think.

I totally agree with you on the fact that other things get raised up such as frame, rockers, bumpers, etc. and there is positives to that except higher center of gravity.

The only thing I would watch on these vans when wheeling is the rear shocks hang down super low on the rear axle on either side of the pumpkin. So you would really want to put your wheels on the obstacle rather than straddle the obstacle.

You don't sound confrontational at all and I agree with you. If just saw this truck in an email from AEV. This is a highly engineered aftermarket package for the Ram 2500/3500 trucks. Basically they put only 3" of lift on the trucks suspension but give you huge fender flares with a much bigger opening to allow for 40" tires. This keeps your mass lower to the ground which helps on-road handling. I've always respected the products put out from AEV. I once owned a 2008 grand Cherokee diesel with 4" lift and AEV products on it.

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Hi I couldn't find the obvious match on the wheelbasealloys site what model are they? Reasonable shipping and a great exchange rate going on with the politic as it is.

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Can you put in a 360 swivel on driver's side with a Quigley?

I'm still spec'ing out my Transit.

Can you put in a 360 swivel on driver's side with a Quigley?

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