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6 kids and a full size van

My wife and I have 4 kids and twins on the way. We finally conceded that there is no minivan or SUV that will work well for our family as we will have two infant seats, one convertible car seat, and two booster seats. Everything but a full size van requires that the second row be able to fold forward to access the third row. That doesn't work well with car seats installed there.

When it comes to full size passenger vans, it seems like the options are really the Ford Econoline/Transit, the Chevy/GMC versions, the Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter, or the Nissan NV (from what I can tell the Dodge Promaster doesn't yet have a passenger version).

Given that we are very new to this class of vehicle we would greatly appreciate knowing the pros and cons of these different vehicles. So far, all we know really know is that we appreciate things like backup sensors/cameras, headrests, airbags, reliability and gas mileage (although it will likely be driven about 10k per year). We are trying to determine the differences in costs as well (cost of vehicle, maintenance, etc).

Finally, we need to determine the vehicle before the twins arrive this summer.

Can you please help us determine the best vehicle for our family? Thanks.
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I owned a Sprinter from when it was new in '08 until 12-30-13 when it was totaled.
I'm currently deciding on what to replace it with.
I'd say that for the stuff you want on it if you live close to a MB dealer that services Sprinters it would be your best choice, but be prepared to shell out over $50,000 even at invoice and expect some expensive repairs over the years.
I'm holding out to see and drive the Transit, but I've narrowed it down to one of those two since the Nissan and Promaster seem to me to be sub par for a family vehicle (I go with the cargo and have it up-fitted as a family travel van, but your needs are better suited to the passenger version)
The Ford may turn out to be just as nice at a lower cost of ownership and purchase, but nobody really knows...it really has not much in common with past European Transits.
I wouldn't even consider the old style E150 which will be dropped next year or the Chevy, once you get spoiled by a tall van it's hard to go low again.
Messing around with your child seats and kids and gear while standing up will save you $ on physical therapy or Chiropractic care!
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that is a tough one.

6 kids and 2 adults.. thats 8 people to lug around. congrats on the twins!

Let me google that for you
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I've sat in the Ford Transit at my local auto show and I was impressed by it. It seemed comfortable, not super ugly, and functional. It is the industry leader so I think that tells you something about how good it is as well.

I'd stay away from the Promaster at the moment, although I think they are coming out with a passenger one soon.

The others are worth a look though.

Congrats on the twins on the way!
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I've sat in the Ford Transit at my local auto show and I was impressed by it. It seemed comfortable, not super ugly, and functional. It is the industry leader so I think that tells you something about how good it is as well.

I'd stay away from the Promaster at the moment, although I think they are coming out with a passenger one soon.

The others are worth a look though.

Congrats on the twins on the way!
Quesiton, why stay away from the ProMaster?
I was interested in it and seen they already had it selling in the eastern part of the world as a Fiat and so far there's been nothing but positive things to be said about it.
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Congrats on the twins, my dad was a twin! A full size van is the way to go. I would stay away from a conversion van because they plummet in value right after you buy one. I have had three full sized passenger vans and loved them except the gas mileage. Mine were all used and I saved a ton of dough by buying them that way. Todd

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I owned a Sprinter from when it was new in '08 until 12-30-13 when it was totaled.
I'm currently deciding on what to replace it with.
I'd say that for the stuff you want on it if you live close to a MB dealer that services Sprinters it would be your best choice, but be prepared to shell out over $50,000 even at invoice and expect some expensive repairs over the years.
I'm holding out to see and drive the Transit, but I've narrowed it down to one of those two since the Nissan and Promaster seem to me to be sub par for a family vehicle (I go with the cargo and have it up-fitted as a family travel van, but your needs are better suited to the passenger version)
The Ford may turn out to be just as nice at a lower cost of ownership and purchase, but nobody really knows...it really has not much in common with past European Transits.
I wouldn't even consider the old style E150 which will be dropped next year or the Chevy, once you get spoiled by a tall van it's hard to go low again.
Messing around with your child seats and kids and gear while standing up will save you $ on physical therapy or Chiropractic care!
What kind of repairs are we talking with a Sprinter?

Really curious why you think the Nissan and Promaster have sub par family experiences. I have yet to look at the Promaster but the Nissan seems to be more of a SUV-like experience with a car-like dash, headrests, airbags, etc.

By tall van, do you mean a high roof? I hadn't even thought about the height being an advantage when loading kids in car seats. I really appreciate that insight.
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I've sat in the Ford Transit at my local auto show and I was impressed by it. It seemed comfortable, not super ugly, and functional. It is the industry leader so I think that tells you something about how good it is as well.

I'd stay away from the Promaster at the moment, although I think they are coming out with a passenger one soon.

The others are worth a look though.

Congrats on the twins on the way!
I did see the Transit briefly at the auto show but it was before we fully realized we would have to go to a full size van and it was completely roped off. Do you have any pics of the interior or remember the set up for the rear? Did it have headrests in the rear? I'm thinking they have made it more passenger friendly than the old bench seats of the Econoline?
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Congrats on the twins, my dad was a twin! A full size van is the way to go. I would stay away from a conversion van because they plummet in value right after you buy one. I have had three full sized passenger vans and loved them except the gas mileage. Mine were all used and I saved a ton of dough by buying them that way. Todd
Thank you and everyone else for the congrats on the twins! We are excited but it has definitely made the vehicle options a lot more challenging.

What do you mean by conversion vans? Is that a cargo van when someone puts rear seats in? If so, I think I would agree with you that I would prefer a vehicle designed to carry my kids.
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I have had three full sized passenger vans and loved them except the gas mileage. Mine were all used and I saved a ton of dough by buying them that way. Todd
It seems like the only way to get anything decent on the cost of fuel in these vans is by going diesel (which some debate really makes a difference when you add in the other costs) or going CNG. Do you believe these options make a difference?

I agree that going used often helps with depreciation but it looks like if I go that route, that I really don't save a ton unless I go with a really old and high miles Econoline, Chevy or Sprinter. Do you mind me asking what you have bought and how much it saved?
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